Rick brought this up to me a while back, I was doing my normal posting videos and what not. I was counting the bar for 45lbs, well IBB went and purchased the same machine I have and stood on a scale while having the smith bar on his shoulders. Low and be hold it was only 25lbs, so all my lifts were 20lbs lighter. Since then IBB and myself leave a set of 10's on the bar to make the bar 45lbs. Our smith has no counter weights just the slides for the up and down movement, no weight supporting at all.
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