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Thanks for the PM 
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You're welcome. Thanks for responding.
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a muscular 26-30 is hard to achieve.
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Yes, it was hard to achieve!
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I highly doubt your actual bodyfat was 15%. If you went on a diet and lost 5% of pure fat you would be a very lean 8-10% bodyfat and 184lbs. This would sit you at 25 BMI which is almost the same condition as Ricardo and that is where I draw issue. There is no chance in hell that you would be 8-10% bodyfat at 184lbs, admittedly matching one of the best drug-free bodybuilders currently alive, after admittedly only training a brief period.
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I have pics...
And, to clarify, I was training for almost 15 years at that point and had always been much leaner than most. I had only been strength training (on a legitimate PL routine) for 4 months.
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So do you see? My point isn't that BMI is ok, my point is that to get a high BMI and still be muscular and in-shape you would need to be in the same type of condition and carry the same level of muscle mass as Ricardo or Grimek. That paints a huge question mark for me.
I think that's where we're getting mixed up. I don't agree with BMI as it stands, however I don't think we should go off in the other direction and use it to justify what is quite obviously just higher bodyfat levels.
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Roger and agree.