[MikeM]

Kuyt, we really could be brothers in another universe! We lift damn near the same, and I gotta tell you, that's my diet almost to a T. Seriously. Only difference is I didn't do supplements and did more nuts and cheese, cottage cheese before bed, etc.

Anyway, I noticed if I eat no carbs before working out, I workout middle of the day, so a breakfast of eggs and meat, etc. Then post workout I had a reasonable amount of carbs (40g, say) along with my tuna, and a reasonable dinner along the lines you suggest, I lost serious weight.

But, I didn't get to my goal, and still haven't btw. I got within 10-15 pounds, but I'm still within 10-15 pounds a year later. Light year's stronger mind you, but still not at my goal.

I think discipline is the key as Mike and Chillen make clear, but also I am realizing balanced meals are making me happier and curbing cravings more.

So, about 400 cal meals, 5-6 times a day, all with some Protein, fat, and Carbs, about 30-30-40. Breakfast is bigger, mid morning snack lighter, (then mid-day workout), then lunch bigger, afternoon snack lighter, dinner-smaller than breakfast or lunch, and cottage cheese before bed.

That is working wonders for stabilizing my overall eating pattern. Still have some undisciplined times here or there, but I am cracking down on those one by one and will get this locked in pretty soon.

So, I guess the only thing I bring to this debate is that I think smaller balanced meals using mainly fresh foods is better.

I believe Betty Crocker said that in 1950, btw.