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Old 05-03-2012, 04:08 AM   #271
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Awesome session tank, congrats on all the PRs!
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PRs on a bad day - thats good in my book buddy

keep at it and you will get the technique down
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Back at it and crushing PRs. Way to move that iron.
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Bad session but 2 PR's. Still progress and you're still learning. Plenty to be pleased with in that session.
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Awesome session tank, congrats on all the PRs!
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PRs on a bad day - thats good in my book buddy

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20 JAN 12 at 200 (90) BW - 385/275/405 (175/125/184) SQ/B/D

29 MAY 12 at 206 (93) BW - 135/175 (61/79) SN/CJ
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Just one of those days with the snatch, Tank. Drop it from your mind and crush it next time. Especially as everything else went well. I think the feew days off might have done you some good.

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Thanks, Mike.
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My Training Journal 5' 8" Current BW 207 (94) lbs (kg)

20 JAN 12 at 200 (90) BW - 385/275/405 (175/125/184) SQ/B/D

29 MAY 12 at 206 (93) BW - 135/175 (61/79) SN/CJ
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Session B1

Warm-up
Jump-rope, bodyweight squats, shoulder dislocates, lots of bar-only reps of various movements.

Clean and Jerk Singles
95 (43) x 1
105 (48) x 1
115 (52) x 1
135 (61) x 1
145 (66) x 1
155 (70) x 1
165 (75) x 1
170 (77) x 1 PR!!
175 (80) x 1 PR!!

Barbell Rows Bodybuilding style.
135 (61) x 5
135 (61) x 5
135 (61) x 5 PR!!

Sit-ups Jump-rope between sets. 5lb plate held behind head.
BW + 5 (2) x 15
BW + 5 (2) x 15
BW + 5 (2) x 15
BW + 5 (2) x 15
BW + 5 (2) x 15 PR!!

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Good day for C&J with yesterday's Snatches still heavy on my mind. I decided to just do 135 on rows because I didn't feel like taking the plates off. I'll increase the weight minimally to compensate. Added a plate to situps and got all the reps; I'll probably do another session with 5 then add some.
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20 JAN 12 at 200 (90) BW - 385/275/405 (175/125/184) SQ/B/D

29 MAY 12 at 206 (93) BW - 135/175 (61/79) SN/CJ
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Yikes! You're smashing it up! What's the difference between a C + Jerk and a C + Push Press? Is one easier than the other? Great work
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Thanks, Kuyt. I'm trying... That Snatch session has me upside down with myself.

The most obvious difference between the Push Press and the Jerk - at least with the technique I am using - would be the catch position. I train the Split Jerk, so after the dip-drive and launching of the bar, one foot comes forward while the other goes backward in order to get low enough to receive the bar. Then, the legs are brought into the same plane one at a time.

The most important difference between the two, however, is the method by which the lifter gets the bar overhead to lockout.

In the PP the idea is to dip, launch the bar from the shoulders, then press it the remaining distance to lockout overhead.

In the Jerk the idea is to dip, launch the bar from the shoulders, then drop low enough to catch it with locked arms.

Which is easier as far as technique, I would have to say the Jerk just because of the movement of the feet in conjunction with the launch/lockout. But I will caveat that by saying I was shocked at how awkward Push Pressing was for me initially. It is not an easy movement, especially after having done years of strict Military Pressing.

Ease concerning effort, I really am not sure. I would say the Jerk because you don't have to press at the top, so theoretically a good dip-drive and launch does most of the work.

To summarize, as with all lifts, in choosing between the two you have to consider most of all the reasons for using the lift. You have to ask yourself what you're trying to improve and go from there. For general strength training, I would use the Push Press; the Jerk by comparison is for much more specific uses, in my opinion.

Hope that made sense.
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My Training Journal 5' 8" Current BW 207 (94) lbs (kg)

20 JAN 12 at 200 (90) BW - 385/275/405 (175/125/184) SQ/B/D

29 MAY 12 at 206 (93) BW - 135/175 (61/79) SN/CJ

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