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Old 01-16-2011, 07:46 AM   #21
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Thanks again, like you say i think i will use straight sets to start with and then use the progression as you perscribe. I will probably keep Dips, curls and calves as straight sets for the duration, but as you have said this is all about the 'weeks' work which is the bit that I need to get my head around as i am so used to just thinking about each session as is comes.Thanks again for all the help with this

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This is where people fail. By jumping in with too much, too soon.

Steve's advice about alternating between calf, and hamstring work is also a solid approach, depending on your own body.

Reeves mentions in his book that he did not do direct calf work intially, due to the fact that he had large calves from peddling his bike.

Reeves proportion guide is a good way to judge area's you may need to concentrate more or less emphasis on. Reeves physique proportion ideals are in the classic challenge thread.

As far as adding weight to dips. Add weight as you see fit, but you may find that as you work harder on your pressing and benching, and you have pre exhusted most of those muscles, you will not need to add any weight.
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I am in for this one. Welcome to the world of fullbody training.

Added 5+ lbs of lean mass in 2010 at age 47. You can do it.

GL makes a great point about DL placement. The main reason I do mine on Wednesday, aside from my own stupidity, is that is my light volume day and that is the only movement I push the weight on. That and it is what I have always done on fullbody cycles so I am used to the recovery issues.

I expect to see great things in here!
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I have trained full body for so long, even my assistance exercises are compound movements lol. Not even kidding. Give it hell!
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Old 01-16-2011, 09:28 AM   #24
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Cheers guys... nice to have you along

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Reeves proportion guide is a good way to judge area's you may need to concentrate more or less emphasis on. Reeves physique proportion ideals are in the classic challenge thread.
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As well as insisting on having an equal bicep, neck and calf measurement, Reeves also felt that the thigh measurement should be exactly half that of the chest circumference, and the waist should be twice that of the neck
Currently I have
Arms 15.75
Neck 16
Calves 15.75
Thighs 23"

so thats pretty good proportionally, but and its a big BUT my chest really lets me down. It is 41.5" and should be up around the 46" with waist at about 32" - its currently at 36"

using his 252% of wrist size though it says my arms should be up around the 17.5" mark !!!!

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And, if all else fails, you can stop training your thighs so damn much!
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Currently I have
Arms 15.75
Neck 16
Calves 15.75
Thighs 23"

so thats pretty good proportionally, but and its a big BUT my chest really lets me down. It is 41.5" and should be up around the 46" with waist at about 32" - its currently at 36"

using his 252% of wrist size though it says my arms should be up around the 17.5" mark !!!!

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I like the Reeves ratio for calves, arms, and neck. I give some leeway for the other measurements, as a rough guide, but we are all a little different proportionally. Reeves was a genetic freak, with exceptional proportions. There is also the Greek ideal formula. It is a bit different, but still fits fairly close.

Don't forget that your back will also affect your chest. it's not all about having big pecs. Good upper lat mass adds inches to the tape as well.

There is time for all of this later. Lets just lift some iron right now!
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Great work, i'll be following
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Reeves Classic, Week 1 - Day 1

Squats (ATG)
70kg x 8
70kg x 8
70kg x 8

BB Row
60kg x 8
60kg x 8
60kg x 8

DB Shoulder Press
15kg x 8
15kg x 8
15kg x 8

Bench Press
60kg x 8
60kg x 8
60kg x 8

DB Curls (alternating)
12.5kg x 8
12.5kg x 8
12.5kg x 8

Dips
BW x 10
BW x 10
BW x 10
BW x 10
BW x 10

Calf Raises
50kg x 15
50kg x 15
50kg x 15

Decline Crunches
BW x 12
BW x 12
BW x 12

Workout felt really good. I definitely used too much weight for the rows and db curls as this is probably the weight i will be using in a couple of weeks, but was supposed to be just running through and getting a feel for it this week... I will up the reps to 10 reps per set as perscibed next session.

It is gonna take a bit of getting used to thinking ofvmy sessions as just one of three for the week and looking at the weeks work as the total thing (and using less weight than normal seemed like i was wimpng out, but the accumulative effect of doing the whole body, and in this order does definitely mean you HAVE to lower the weights. doing shoulders before bench was strange too and the 60kg on bench definitely felt heavier than it should have...Its definitely a refreshing change. Squats felt good and so did bench. I was pretty fatigued towards the end of the last couple of sets of dips though, so am eager to see what the highe reps on the other stuff will do to the dips and whether i will still be able to get 10 reps across the board

Some cardio tomorrow

Total workout time about 50 mins or so (I only rested 1 min between sets, except squats which was 90 seconds and 1 min between exercises)

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Nice first workout! Glad to see another person doing the reeves routine. I'll be following
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Nice first workout! Glad to see another person doing the reeves routine. I'll be following
cheers guys, it was a good first workout, like i said not the heaviest by a long shout but doing that kind of volume on the entire body definitely make you check you ego at the door and reasses what you think you can lift...

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