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Old 01-16-2011, 05:37 PM   #31
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I can't get the flu shot.
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Old 01-16-2011, 05:40 PM   #32
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so SO u believe they would tell us its bad n stop makin money lol, this is why we are all basically sheep to the government we believe everything they tell us lol im out im not gonna hijack this guys log with crazy crap like this, we all have our opinion
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so SO u believe they would tell us its bad n stop makin money lol, this is why we are all basically sheep to the government we believe everything they tell us lol im out im not gonna hijack this guys log with crazy crap like this, we all have our opinion
Yes I believe if the shot was harmful the FDA would ban it. Its not just my faith in the FDA that gives me this opinion. I know countless amounts of people who use it and I have never heard anything bad about it. My point is, if its really as bad as you say it is, you would certainly not be the person I'd find out from
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geez didn't think I would raise a debate but ok, I happen to be a medical researcher (not practitionner, can't stand sick people .

one scientific study published last year surveyed 1,205 cases of seasonal influenza amongst military personnel stationed in the U.S. Results show that the vaccine (either TIV or LAIV type) was only marginally effective in preventing mild symptoms, but was markedly effective in preventing severe symptoms.

so here's the verdict: if you could be getting real badly sick (e.g., you are immuno-compromised, e.g., HIV-positive, over the age of 65, etc.) then probably best to take it to avoid potentially severe symptoms. The rest of us (like me), we usually bounce back within a few days.

here's the study in question:
Seasonal influenza vaccine and protection against ... [PLoS One. 2010] - PubMed result

you can find many more studies if you search the pubmed database, but, as always, read with a critical eye as definitive answers are rare.
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I had influenza once. It's no joke. And it's not the stomach flu like so many people think.

Like JP said, if you are in a group that is susceptible to severe symptoms, tale one.

I personally would rather have the shot then to get influenza. It had me down for the count for a month.

Sorry to derail your training log JP.
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Old 01-17-2011, 02:06 PM   #36
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no problem, sir, we're all here to learn more. now please, on to some powerlifting!
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Recovery week continues -

Incline bench:
135 x 8
185 x 4
185 x 3
205 x 2
225 x 1

Incline DB flies:
45 x 12
52.5 x 10
65 x 4

Tate DB press:
30 x 10
40 x 8
45 x 8

Triceps dips
35 x 5
55 x 5
70 x 3
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Starting a short cycle of Tribulus. According to recent scientific work, it may lead to improvements if taking at least 1,500 mg a day for 10 days. No benefits after that. My first time trying it, will see what happens.
see here:
The influence of the Tribulus terrestris extract o... [Fiziol Zh. 2009] - PubMed result
but also see here for contradictory results:
Effects of anabolic precursors on serum testostero... [Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2000] - PubMed result
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[quote=jp_ottawa;108265]Starting a short cycle of Tribulus. According to recent scientific work, it may lead to improvements if taking at least 1,500 mg a day for 10 days. No benefits after that. My first time trying it, will see what happens.
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Sounds about right lol. Ive been on Tribulus before and seems to wear off after two weeks. Btw solid workout sessions in here bro.
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Sounds about right lol. Ive been on Tribulus before and seems to wear off after two weeks. Btw solid workout sessions in here bro.[/QUOTE]


thanks bro. I'll let you know about my Tribulus experience. looks like a side-effect is a reduction in creatinine, so I'll be sure to follow that with a new creatine cycle.
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