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Old 11-10-2015, 03:37 AM   #1
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Seriously in my 4 years of lifting I've never read or head about anyone getting really sting (pound for pound), when starting at my age. And since this is my log I will speculate. My above statement does not include the use of juice, in any degree. Sorry, but this is dead true in my opinion.

Anyone 35 or older that's just starting, wanna get really strong?

I have the formula. Enjoy.
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Early intermediate linear

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1. Sq, sq variation, abs, 80%
2. Off
3. Bench, rows, ohp, pull-ups 80%
4. Off
5. Off
6. 70% squat volume, deadlift 80 % abs
7. Off
8. Bench variation volume 70%, back, shoulders
9. Off
10. Off
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Volume

Heavy day 1 80% 2-3x6
Light day 2- 3-4x4
Ohp- 1x6 each session
Back- 3x6
Dead- 1-2x6
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Old 11-14-2015, 02:20 PM   #4
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Today was first session in about a week. Life has been in the way but I am all rested up and ready to go. Decent session today. I will be doing my light days completely raw, no sleeves or belt. Same will go for bench.

Started with light volume today. About 70% of raw lifts.

Day 1 week 1 - raw volume
Squat- 195x4x4
Pause deadlift- 195x6x2
ab rollouts
calves
kb swings

Most likely will bench press tomorrow. I will be playing this by feel. The plan is a simple rotation of 70% and 80%.

Overall just happy to have gotten some work in.
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I started to lift around your age. I had lifted some when younger, then stopped. Then little more then stopped. Then got serious a few years ago after finding this site, Steve and the other great members here. So while I technically had lifted in the past, I was a beginner when I started to lift properly. And even with my veryyyyyyyyyyy inconsistent training due to health, life and ect...I lost 70+ lbs and I've gotten much stronger. I know there are many others and I'm not alone, so it can be done! Stay consistent, put the same amount or more work into your diet as you do the gym and you'll succeed. People here are great and will help you along with questions and general support. Good luck!!!
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I started to lift around your age. I had lifted some when younger, then stopped. Then little more then stopped. Then got serious a few years ago after finding this site, Steve and the other great members here. So while I technically had lifted in the past, I was a beginner when I started to lift properly. And even with my veryyyyyyyyyyy inconsistent training due to health, life and ect...I lost 70+ lbs and I've gotten much stronger. I know there are many others and I'm not alone, so it can be done! Stay consistent, put the same amount or more work into your diet as you do the gym and you'll succeed. People here are great and will help you along with questions and general support. Good luck!!!

Congratulations on your transformation, Hunterace! 70lb loss?!

Hopefully people didn't take my comments the wrong way. My intentions aren't to slam anyone. I really do appreciate all the help people have offered me. You're right, folks here are very friendly and anxious to contribute. Unfortunately, theres little to no advice from people who have started lifting at near forty years of age and have managed to reach extremely high levels of strength without getting extremely heavy, in comparison to their numbers. No offense to anyone.

All I'm trying to say is it's time for me to dictate how I should lift. Due to the added variables included with advanced age (relative to lifting heavy)(for a lot of people imo) I don't think, at this point in my lifting, there is much beneficial advice anyone can offer me. Especially a young coach who has never personally experienced lifting at an older age. (again no offense)

Thank you everyone for all that you've done. There are indeed peers of ours that are moving forward at an extremely high rate, and are exercising with high intensity very frequently, it's remarkable. Unfortunately, none of those methods have worked well for me. The only solution I see is to write my one schedule. Diet, desire, consistency, effort, and forms are all there. The only category left is recovery and nobody can help me with that.

Your story is encouraging and I will not stop trying.

Thanks again!


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1 board pause- 175x4x4
db row pause- 60x6x3
cgincledbp- 115x10
pullups- 1x10
tri pushdown- 1x25
hammers- 1x20
machine curl- 1x25
standing reverse fly- 1x25
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Week 1 day one my program

Sq- 275x6,6
Dead lift form
Abs

I will only be doing 2 top sets of squats for time being. A 3rd set will be reserved for days that I can not add reps. Instead on those days I will attempt an additional set.
Deadlufts were highly affected from the pauses 3 days ago. I gave them a second go with reduced weight and still no benefits,they're just getting in the way. Looking towards rearranging back day so that I can heavy row instead of dlnwhen need be
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The reality is, there is a genetic limit. With excellent programming, diet, etc. you can slowly get into elite natty levels, but any injuries or disruptions will set you back and it's a long crawl back. I'm am getting close to setting PRs again, but it wouldn't take much to force me to have to start over.

The really big, really strong lifters usually have a) an above-average size frame and, b) are juicing. Even most here on MaB. They may deny it, but it's the truth.

Go for your natty potential and then seek longevity.
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Well, I've started around 35 too and have had the same interrogations as you. I don't believe it's possible to become insanely strong pound for pound for most of us when starting that old... just like in any sport in fact. Assuming you manage to avoid injuries and stay healthy, I think a lifetime goal of 2,5x BW squat and deadlift, 1,5xBW bench press is possible for "old folks" like us. The only way to somehow progress once relative strength is impossible to build anymore is to put on weight and gain absolute strength...
Just like said Jon, it can be like building a house of cards, you need to be very careful while still focusing on progression...Don't think too much, just try to stick to your program, add weight or reps when you can, focus on recovery and form, live to lift another day...That's how I see things.

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Thanks for the reminder, guys. I shouldn't be comparing myself to anyone anyway. However, at the same time I think there should be a moral obligation for people to announce their 'usage' if doing so. Especially those who feel the need to boast and give advice. Imo, it's very demotivating, and makes me (in particular) constantly obsess over my programming trying to see what I'm doing 'wrong.'

I have the feeling some people get off on this. Bragging about going from 0-1200 in a year only makes me think you're juiced to the hilt. Especially when the weight gain is very minimal. Am I living in oz or do others think the same?

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Wednesday
Bench- 205x6,6
Db rows- 80x6,6,6
Inclined cgbp- 115x12
Pullups- 1x6
Lat pull- 1x15
Hammers
Curls
Band push- 1x30
Tri pushdown- 1x30


Soon as I get day two pinned down things will be flowing freely.

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