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Old 06-05-2013, 04:39 PM   #321
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You seem to be in a different scenario to most newbies who can just lift, gain weight and get stronger. As you have to be mindful of your work, I see where you're coming from but it doesn't sound as if you don't need to worry about excess fat gain because it won't 'creep up' on you as you're very vigilant. Just keep enjoying your weight training, getting stronger as much as possible and monitor yourself to ensure your job isn't in jeopardy. I think you'll be just fine
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Old 06-05-2013, 04:46 PM   #322
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You seem to be in a different scenario to most newbies who can just lift, gain weight and get stronger. As you have to be mindful of your work, I see where you're coming from but it doesn't sound as if you don't need to worry about excess fat gain because it won't 'creep up' on you as you're very vigilant. Just keep enjoying your weight training, getting stronger as much as possible and monitor yourself to ensure your job isn't in jeopardy. I think you'll be just fine


Agreed. Thanks for the advice and support mate Think I've finally got it.

The truth however will be in the "doing" like I said earlier. All this pondering is doing no good, I just have to try this, and see if it works!
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Old 06-05-2013, 10:48 PM   #323
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remember...you can add fat without changing your body fat percentage!
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Old 06-06-2013, 03:43 AM   #324
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Yeah good point!
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Old 06-06-2013, 05:10 AM   #325
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go and get it linden, do it the slow way and you will be fine if you keep adding reps and weight to the bar you will build some amount of muscle as you said your self you are not looking to get hooge so the way you have chosen to approach this should work for you.
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go and get it linden, do it the slow way and you will be fine if you keep adding reps and weight to the bar you will build some amount of muscle as you said your self you are not looking to get hooge so the way you have chosen to approach this should work for you.
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jdmalm, how much fat do you think you'd have to gain to go up a body fat percentage?
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Old 06-06-2013, 05:30 PM   #328
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WORKOUT

Went pretty well, here are the stats.

BENCH PRESS - 5X5 -
BENT OVER ROWS - (WILL EXPLAIN BELOW)
BULGARIAN SPLIT SQUATS - 8X4 - 35 KG
And then 2 sets of goblet squats to hit my legs a little more, at 17.5kg for 12 reps


So I attempted to progress in my lifts today.

I used the idea Off Road suggested, and used 1 pounds bags tied onto each end of the barbell along with the pates I had on last workout (A few Onions and a lemon in one, and one of my mums 1 pound cooking weights in the other! .)

With bench press it went great, felt I had the absolute perfect progression with it. Was just the right amount of extra challenge from last times workout, was very pleased with it.

Bent over rows didn't go as well although I felt I still some way or another managed to hit my back and biceps hard with them.
The problem was I forgot exactly how I did last workout with them, and thinking I did better than I actually did, I added those 1 pound bags on, to find that by the time I got to the 4th set, the most amount of reps I could accomplish with good form was 3.

Anyway, I did a total of 7 sets, which will have been overkill, but I was trying to make up for the mistake I made when I could only do half sets because I judged it wrong. 4 of those sets were with the weight I had on last week, and the additional 2 pound bags on the end. Then I dropped the weight by taking off those bags, and taking off a 2.5 kg, and did 2 sets with that weight.
I'd really messed it up, and then even those were a struggle after the heavy stuff I';d been lifting before, so I then took off another 2kg and did one last set.

Not really ideal, and I know I shouldn't really be taking weight off the bar during a workout and that youv'e told me not to, but it was needed this time for me to actually perform the set properly.

Anyhow, in the end, regardless of that mess up I managed to salvage it. I'd certainly hit my back well after all of that, I could feel it.

I then went on to doing some bulgarian split squats. My squat stands are half;f built (Will be done soon), so I'm stuck with these until they're finished.

When I say stuck with them, thats not implying they're a drag because they';re easy and ineffective.
I couldn't have been more wrong. While they certainly don't replace the squat, these things are damn hard.

I did 8 reps of 4 sets as I said above, with a total of 35 kg in weight in my hands (2 dumbbells at 17.5kg each)

You probably won't have ever had any reason to do these seen as you can do squats, but trust me, with enough weight to challenge yourself, these are killer.
I don't know how effective they are overall, but they certainly feel it.

After those 4 sets I did a couple of extra goblet squats with one of the dumbbells I used for the bulgarian splits, 12 reps.



Everything went pretty smoothly really, defiantly felt I pushed myself.



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jdmalm, how much fat do you think you'd have to gain to go up a body fat percentage?
it's all just math... (numbers below for illustrative purposes)

If you weigh 100 lbs @ 10%BF you have 10 lbs of fat and 90 lbs of LBM.

If you weigh 200 lbs @ 10%BF you have 20 lbs of fat and 180 lbs of LBM.


Oh, noes! you gained 10 lbs of fat!!!!!11 But really you also gained 90 lbs of muscle, bone and sinew.

So, even if you went from 100 to 200 lbs and went up to 15% BF, you have 30 lbs of fat and 170 lbs of LBM....still a great gain of 80 lbs LBM...

Let's not be afraid of adding BF if the muscle gains are outpacing it...

Of course, if you're modeling, then the look matters more than the numbers...
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Let's not be afraid of adding BF if the muscle gains are outpacing it...

Of course, if you're modeling, then the look matters more than the numbers...




Along as that 1-2 pounds of body weight I'll be gaining a month is mostly muscle, then I'll be ok.
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