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Old 06-05-2013, 02:35 AM   #311
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Old 06-05-2013, 02:41 AM   #312
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Agreed! Good work, Linden. Keep at it.

I think you've made the best possible choice, by the way, to combine progressively overloading primarily compound lifts with some intense cardio, and a cautious approach to adding body weight.

I don't mean to imply that overanalysing anything, or worrying too much, say, is the right approach. Before anyone steps in to say something along those lines. But what I do mean is, that given your occupation and goals, it's a better fit going for body recomposition over brute force bulking followed by cutting.

In my opinion.
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Old 06-05-2013, 09:23 AM   #313
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I have heard more than once in the past that sprints are good for ab development.

From a seminar with Alwyn Cosgrove, commenting on his personal trainer experience with numerous clients, in a session called "Real World Fat Loss":

"Running sprint intervals outside leans out the abs."
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Old 06-05-2013, 10:04 AM   #314
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Well, if that fear of fat gain will never go away and/or the agencies will not tolerate it, you would benefit from taking the slow road to building muscle to minimize fat gain. Just a matter of finding the right combo of food, lifting, and rest. Anything can be done if you dedicate, work hard, and are willing to make adjustments when needed.
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Old 06-05-2013, 11:27 AM   #315
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Well, if that fear of fat gain will never go away and/or the agencies will not tolerate it, you would benefit from taking the slow road to building muscle to minimize fat gain. Just a matter of finding the right combo of food, lifting, and rest. Anything can be done if you dedicate, work hard, and are willing to make adjustments when needed.
agreed, thanks for the support Jim.
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Agreed! Good work, Linden. Keep at it.

I think you've made the best possible choice, by the way, to combine progressively overloading primarily compound lifts with some intense cardio, and a cautious approach to adding body weight.

I don't mean to imply that overanalysing anything, or worrying too much, say, is the right approach. Before anyone steps in to say something along those lines. But what I do mean is, that given your occupation and goals, it's a better fit going for body recomposition over brute force bulking followed by cutting.

In my opinion.

Cheers for the support Dray. It appears I have some people to back me rather than criticize!
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Old 06-05-2013, 12:01 PM   #317
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I think I've found the right way to approach this.


I'll be sticking with the 1-2 pounds of total body weight gain a month.
This equals out as 24 pounds in a year.

Every 3-5 months, I'll do a mini cut for 2-4 weeks if I don't like the way I look, or think it'll have a detrimental effect on my modeling job.

At 1-2 pounds a month, with most of it hopefully being muscle, the percentage of fat really won't be much at all!

Say I bulk up for 4 months gaining 2 pounds of weight a month , Using those perimeters I'll barley gain any fat, and the majority would be muscle (hopefully).
I don't know the ratios perfectly. but I remember btb saying a 1:2 ratio was good, meaning it'd be mostly muscle.
The fat I do gain within these pretty short bulk timeframes might not even notice which would be great, seen as we're talking low single digit pounds of fat here, I'd likely never go above 4 pounds of fat at a time.

Seems the best of both worlds to me. I'd never look fatter, because the amount of fat I'd have to gain to make a difference to my physique would never be present, because I'd only gain 2,3,4 pounds each time at most depending on how long I bulk for.
AND I'd have the benefit of just doing a normal slow bulk like allot of people do and recommend, without going stupidly low with my bulking calories to insure I gained absolutely minimal fat.

I think the mistake I was making was not really thinking it through even though I was actually over-thinking.
I've got this big fear of fat gain, but when I think about it, the fat I'll be gaining really won't be that much at all, and nothing I can't get rid of quickly in a few weeks should the situation arise that I don't like the way things are going.
(I know you told me this before)

The support and information I've got from this site have been fantastic, and I can see peoples frustration, but I was really more confused than anything. I was making more out of it than was necessary because of my OCD tendencies, and fear of getting fat.
All the information was there, and I've learned so much from all of you and thoroughly appreciate your advice.
I DO listen to what you say, perhaps too much because I read too deeply into everything.
If you could forgive me then that'd be great. I made friends on here and some of them have gotten sick of me and washed there hands of my situation, which I understand.

BUT. I'm apologizing. I'm really sorry. I have all your advice, and I'm actively putting it into action, regardless as to weather you think I didn't listen.

If this works, then I've cracked it. Its in the doing now that counts. I have no more stupid questions to ask.

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At the end of the day, as long as you are in a calories surplus of some kind and working hard progressing, you'll be fine Linden. You have to roll with what you think you'll stick to and be willing and flexible to make adjustments, which may include more food. Keep it simple!
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Old 06-05-2013, 03:30 PM   #319
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subed, interested to see how you progress.


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best of luck man


Thanks mate.

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