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Old 06-13-2013, 07:37 AM   #691
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:56 AM   #692
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your right moe, I am feeling burned out not recovery well from workout to workout.
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:06 AM   #693
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You've probably just reached that point of needing a bit more recovery to continue progress. That's a lousy time to switch routines because you are in the most productive time of training, but it's a great time to shuffle things around a bit to increase recovery.

I like the suggestions so far for the upper/lower. That would allow you to keep grinding your lifts and not have to reset any weights or reps and still keep up the progression you've earned through the buildup. Spacing the lifts out a little further is definitely the way to go. I will offer one other good setup for you to consider. . .

Three days a week, alternating A and B:

Day A: (pulls)
Squats
Chins
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Shrugs
Etc.

Day B: (pushes)
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You've probably just reached that point of needing a bit more recovery to continue progress. That's a lousy time to switch routines because you are in the most productive time of training, but it's a great time to shuffle things around a bit to increase recovery.

I like the suggestions so far for the upper/lower. That would allow you to keep grinding your lifts and not have to reset any weights or reps and still keep up the progression you've earned through the buildup. Spacing the lifts out a little further is definitely the way to go. I will offer one other good setup for you to consider. . .

Three days a week, alternating A and B:

Day A: (pulls)
Squats
Chins
Rows
Shrugs
Etc.

Day B: (pushes)
Deadlift (every other session)
Bench
Press
Triceps
Etc.
nice I like it, I am not questioning the setup but just out of curiosity why deadlifts on the push day.
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nice I like it, I am not questioning the setup but just out of curiosity why deadlifts on the push day.
Mostly because it gives extra back work through the week, and we know that the back is way more important than the front Some people switch it around and put the deads on pull day and squats on push day, but many have found that deads can really take away from all the other pulling exercises. Also, a lot of guys like to use stiffies after squats anyways. Lastly because the deads are only every other session, it gives a nice easy day to really push the bench. It's a nice setup because everything gets hit HARD three times in two weeks (or 1-1/2 times each week), the deads only get hit once a week. It's a simple way to increase recovery without resetting anything.

But of course, many different setups will work, that just happens to be one of my favorites. Heck, you could easily just keep the exact same setup you are doing right now and just insert an extra rest day or two. A full body routine done twice a week is a BIG winner when you are trying to extend progression. It's all personal and what you believe in. The main idea to take away is that you should not change routines or reset your weight, find a way to keep going. . .

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your right moe, I am feeling burned out not recovery well from workout to workout.
Definitely a good time to evolve things.

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Mostly because it gives extra back work through the week, and we know that the back is way more important than the front Some people switch it around and put the deads on pull day and squats on push day, but many have found that deads can really take away from all the other pulling exercises. Also, a lot of guys like to use stiffies after squats anyways. Lastly because the deads are only every other session, it gives a nice easy day to really push the bench. It's a nice setup because everything gets hit HARD three times in two weeks (or 1-1/2 times each week), the deads only get hit once a week. It's a simple way to increase recovery without resetting anything.

But of course, many different setups will work, that just happens to be one of my favorites. Heck, you could easily just keep the exact same setup you are doing right now and just insert an extra rest day or two. A full body routine done twice a week is a BIG winner when you are trying to extend progression. It's all personal and what you believe in. The main idea to take away is that you should not change routines or reset your weight, find a way to keep going. . .
OK that all makes perfect sense, so in your honest opinion what do think I should do, if I stick to my full-body I defiantly need 2 days of recovery between workouts now 1 is not enough, but then again I like that set up you showed me.
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after some thinking i am going with off roads setup it will give a lot more recovery and i have had enough of dead lifting twice a week plus i can just get going with it with out reseting weights, and i get to hammer the bench press once a week while still being fresh
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Good luck, I think you will soak up the extra recovery and see another surge of energy and enthusiasm. Push to the finish line.
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