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Old 11-19-2011, 03:58 PM   #11
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Researchers following about 250 people for a year found that overweight individuals ate fewer snacks in addition to meals than people in the normal body weight range, but the overweight still took in more calories and they were less active over the course of the day.
Despite the fewer meals/snacks, the overweight people were overweight, because they took in more calories as compared to what was expended.

Calories are the king.

Activity is only relevant (in this subject matter) in the expenditure side of the equation. It is not known whether activity, would have decreased body weight, given the amount of calories consumed.

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Generally, though, "weight loss maintainers" consumed the fewest calories, at about 1,800 a day, compared with the normal weight and overweight subjects, who took in 1,900 and more than 2,000 calories a day, respectively.
Here we have the maintainers, eating fewer calories as compared to the overweight people.

What is interesting, is that no where do I see individual particulars of these subjects; which would put the calorie consumption in perspective.

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Weight loss maintainers also were the most physically active of the three groups, Bachman said, burning off about 3,000 calories a week through exercise and other activities, compared to 2,000 calories a week among the normal weight subjects and 800 calories a week in the overweight group.
To sum up, we have fewer calories (without knowing the individual particulars), and more activity. And, this is obviously pointing to the "basics" of weight control, and its not surprising these variables could lead to maintaining or losing body weight.

Its pretty basic to me.

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"If you eat more often, it stops you from getting too hungry," Bachman said. "If you wait 10 hours after you've last eaten, you end up eating a lot more food. If you sit down and you're really hungry, you also tend to eat more calories."
There isn't a one size fits all when it comes to preventing/working with hunger pains. For some eating more frequent works real well, for others it does not, and a less frequent eating pattern works well.

In others, some find IF works better than both the above. Likewise, in even others, eating less can lead to binges and overeating. It just depends on "what works for the individual person--the best: If its eating more frequent and controlling calories/macros relative to ones goal, this is good. If its eating less frequent and controlling calories/macros relative to ones goal, this is good.

Its about controlling calories, this is the bottom line, and this article just brings in more evidence of it. Whats interesting is that they did not provide information on macros.

To me there is nothing really new here.

Number 1: Control calories.

Eat as often as you need to to control number 1.


When are they going to stop looking for some magic bullet, when the basic fundamentals work?
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NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Normal weight adults, including those who had lost a lot of weight and kept it off, ate more often than overweight people in a new study looking at factors that may help in preventing weight gain...


The researchers found that, on average, the normal weight subjects ate three meals and a little over two snacks each day, whereas the overweight group averaged three meals and just over one snack a day.
To add, how can a person have "just over one snack"? And, the meals only altered, in quantitiy of times eating, by 1 snack, or just over one snack

And, let's not forget those following Intermittent Fasting who are only eating 1 large meal a day and very little in the way of snacks, to my knowledge, and yet they are not overweight.

As Chillen has pointed out, and possibly others, it comes down to calories and activity; otherwise Intermittent Fasting doesn't/can't work
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