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Old 03-08-2012, 06:49 PM   #1
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I have been debating and debating this to myself all week. If everything goes as planned, I should be starting my new workout routine on Monday. My bicep isolation I have chosen is barbell curls, and my tricep movement will be either dips or cgbp.

I have the equipment to do either one, but I am debating: which is better?

I am leaning more towards the CGBP, since it is the same movement as a regular bench press (pushing infront) and I think that would have more carryover into my bench press than doing dips itself.

Then again dips have a great reputation to building massive triceps, so I'm kind of clueless to which I have chosen.

Which do you prefer and why?
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Dips are Ines Cudna:



Either one is a great choice.

Seriously though, a lot of it depends on program. If it's a fullbody you can get both in. If not, depends on the program.
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What's the general outline of the program?
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I can overload with CGBP, ME Bench work

Dips, assistance work.
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Monday: Horizontal Emphasis, Vertical Maintenance
3X5 Bench Press
3X5 Bent Over Rows
3X8 Incline Press
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I can overload with CGBP, ME Bench work

Dips, assistance work.
That sounds like a good suggestion. I'll probably have incorporate something like this when I start using westside/conjugate method principles. I think in order to get my bench press really impressive, I will need to focus specifically on tricep development.
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Either one is a great choice.

Seriously though, a lot of it depends on program. If it's a fullbody you can get both in. If not, depends on the program.
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Didn't mean to get off topic again, but I thought I read somewhere that decline benchpresses could be substituted or serve the same purpose?
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As far as the girls go; I like the Denise better. But as far as the exercises go; I like Bar Dips better. Can you switch those for me so my universe is in order?
Polarity has been tweaked. All is good.
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I personally am not a huge fan of Declines. I feel that my bench has progressed good without.
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