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Old 04-09-2012, 07:09 PM   #21
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Thanks for putting that up Btb.
Interesting factoid - many equipped lifters are heavier on the squat than deadlift.
The raw numbers suggest that we should expect the opposite for raw lifters,
which makes sense to me. Is it your experience that most raw lifters have a stronger
deadlift than squat?
Typically they will be much closer than that of an equipped lifter. I get little out of a suit deadlifting, but an amazing amount in the squat. With that being said, my raw squat is still 100lbs more than my raw pull (even 50lbs more then my equipped pull). Some people are just built for lifts. The deadlift isnt one for me
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:10 PM   #22
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Thanks for putting that up Btb.
Interesting factoid - many equipped lifters are heavier on the squat than deadlift.
The raw numbers suggest that we should expect the opposite for raw lifters,
which makes sense to me. Is it your experience that most raw lifters have a stronger
deadlift than squat?
As a general rule, if you are a raw lifter and can squat more than deadlift, you normally dont squat to depth. There are very few raw lifters that can legitimately out squat their deadlift.
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Old 04-09-2012, 08:00 PM   #23
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Is it your experience that most raw lifters have a stronger
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I didn't see the other responses yet, but yes. I except it to be about 75-100 pounds heavier, give or take. Some of the elite raw squatters skew this because they are more specialists, or built for the squat, but for average guys I expect 100ish.
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Old 04-10-2012, 12:28 AM   #24
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Thanks for the great info BTB.
Looks like my curl is just under master...
That was 2 years ago..I need to get back
at it and work toward elite.
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Great info! My lifts land me in between EXTREMELY STRONG and I am borderline ELITE STRONG. I've got some work to do if I'm going to shoot for PRO!
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