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Old 01-20-2011, 03:02 PM   #11
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Yes...there is more to GPP than just sled pulling and prowler pushing
No, I meant what does GPP stand for, or did I miss it in a previous post?
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GPP is general physical preparedness.
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Thanks guys...never heard of the term before.
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I do not know if anyone ventures outside these parts too much to other lifting forums, but crossfit and most of its offshoots (excluding CF football) are pretty lamented and ridiculed elsewhere.

The problems with it being that the main site WOD isn't really programmed, its just more of a random pull a number out of a hat sort of thing. For example the WOD could be a max effort deadlift single, when yesterday you were doing something leg intensive like running or squats for time. As some other posters pointed out, it really pushes people out of their limits and is a recipe for injury.

The other rather large problem is that it is not specific programming for one physical trait, eg: max strength or max endurance or muscular body weight. Its emphasizes being decent everywhere and not being great in any one category. Seeing as this is the Powerlifting and Strength Training forum, CF is about as far away from this as possible.

IMO there are other things to improve GPP that are not CF and I think that many upper level powerlifters and strongmen would agree.

For the record I'm not trying to start a flame war or any such argument, this is just a small tidbit of the cons I have come across about CF. And I've never personally done it, but my military and ROTC friends all tried and said they did much better training for specific goals.
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I find crossfit beats the snot out people, and there really isn't a rhyme or reason in regards to program construction.
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Ohhh okay, sorry! *blush*.

Basically just an "extra" workout. Cardio, but also helps with recovery.
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I do not know if anyone ventures outside these parts too much to other lifting forums, but crossfit and most of its offshoots (excluding CF football) are pretty lamented and ridiculed elsewhere.

The problems with it being that the main site WOD isn't really programmed, its just more of a random pull a number out of a hat sort of thing. For example the WOD could be a max effort deadlift single, when yesterday you were doing something leg intensive like running or squats for time. As some other posters pointed out, it really pushes people out of their limits and is a recipe for injury.

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IMO there are other things to improve GPP that are not CF and I think that many upper level powerlifters and strongmen would agree.

For the record I'm not trying to start a flame war or any such argument, this is just a small tidbit of the cons I have come across about CF. And I've never personally done it, but my military and ROTC friends all tried and said they did much better training for specific goals.

Well of course. No one is arguing that it's the only type of training you should do. But for example, the world record holder for female powerlifting does crossfit regularly (usually 2x per week). I think that so long as it's not drawing away from your other training, it can be very beneficial.

I don't do it all the time for GPP, but I like to throw some complexes in now and then (like The Bear, but with lighter weight). I also do other circuits and box jumps, as well as plyos, which have really increased my deadlift and squat explosiveness.

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