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Old 03-11-2010, 06:40 PM   #21
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All I know is that after a while singles stopped helping my deadlift total. I hovered at 500 for a year. 4 months in the range of 3 to 10, and my deadlift went through the roof. I will never be able to do 30 reps, so I can't say what they help or harm.

The "he's showing off" assumptions are a little unfounded. John Grimek trained in higher rep ranges. Just because something isn't OCD bodybuilding style doesn't equate to showing off. That's a big leap to draw that conclusion. I had a goal early this year to hit 405x20, and I wasn't trying to show off. I was trying to hit 405x20 because I wanted to.
I think doing ANY movement for that many reps would not help you grow whatsoever! I feel with dead lifts that 5 reps or LESS is appropriate, given that it is a STRENGTH building exercise, not a muscular endurance building exercise... To me it just doesn't make sense to go high rep for such a God given strength building exercise! Of all the movements the weight lifting Gods blessed us with, the dead lift was the mass builder, the one to end all complaints of not getting bigger or stronger... but people misuse it and play games with light weight, and that I just don't understand...

The original video, his form does go to ****, that's to be expected with that many reps, BUT if he was even able to move 315lb for that many reps regardless of form, he's pulling 600 for one if he digs those heels down, and I don't get why a 180lb'er wouldn't want to be able to say he can pull 3x his bodyweight...

Damn high reppers.
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I'm not arguing for high reps Doc. And I'm surely not arguing for sets over 10 for growth. The bulk of my sets were between 3 and 8 reps, and my max went up over 100 pounds.

My case is unique. I have no growth left. My goal was purely a personal goal. I also handle deadlifts quite well, and could probably train them heavy twice a week without issues. After 24 years, I lift for pleasure and need new mountains to climb. I respect that you consider them foolish. But like I said, after all the years I have in, sometimes interesting goals are all I have left.
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Old 03-11-2010, 06:50 PM   #23
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I'm not arguing for high reps Doc. And I'm surely not arguing for sets over 10 for growth. The bulk of my sets were between 3 and 8 reps, and my max went up over 100 pounds.

My case is unique. I have no growth left. My goal was purely a personal goal. I also handle deadlifts quite well, and could probably train them heavy twice a week without issues. After 24 years, I lift for pleasure and need new mountains to climb. I respect that you consider them foolish. But like I said, after all the years I have in, sometimes interesting goals are all I have left.
I think we're reading what we're each saying here actually a bit differently than what we each mean... Let me start over:

I think high reps for a power movement like the dead lift are a waste of precious training time...

BUT

if for a personal challenge, something to be done once (like the 300 workout) than do it to it, just don't make it a habit... I think OP is more saying it would be an acceptable habit, that is what I do not agree with...

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I gotcha Doc. I am pretty much a hardcore advocate of low rep deadlift sets. In fact, for a long time I preached only one rep at a time, rest-pause style. I don't like multiple reps for guys who don't have form locked down.

Personally, my big self can't do much more than 10 per set even if I wanted to.

I did misunderstand what you were saying. And I apologize for that.

BTW, I don't know that I received the answer to the last question. Can you check your email and possibly re-send it?
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I gotcha Doc. I am pretty much a hardcore advocate of low rep deadlift sets. In fact, for a long time I preached only one rep at a time, rest-pause style. I don't like multiple reps for guys who don't have form locked down.

Personally, my big self can't do much more than 10 per set even if I wanted to.

I did misunderstand what you were saying. And I apologize for that.

BTW, I don't know that I received the answer to the last question. Can you check your email and possibly re-send it?
just re-sent it.
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Well, to each his own. I guess it just depends on the goals of the person in question.
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Old 03-11-2010, 08:33 PM   #27
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I'll one up you...525x4...well, maybe not exactly one up...but...well...27 reps is a lot.

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Deadlifting in the double digits is just retarded. I mean kudos to anyone who has the time to do some many damn reps, but outside of a light strongman competition, I see no purpose to do anymore then 20 reps for an excercise(which is a strech) unless your crazy. Not knocking anyone, just confirming some screws are loose lol.
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fml that is some crazy lifting!!!

these guys aren't making the videos with the title '30 deadlifts make you grow'
no, they are making these videos for people like us to say ' holy **** thats alot of deadlifting'

major kudos to every video posted, especially the basement guy!!!
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To address DocCollossus, I wasn't saying it would be an acceptable habit. I know that I have a lot of fun with high-rep deadlifts from time to time, and I think it'd be fine to change things up now and then. I definitely don't see them as being harmful, and to me they're not a waste of time if incorporated into a circuit. It's not like you would train with 30 reps every time.

But I mean, widowmaker squats are basically the same thing. Either way, I find it impressive.
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