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Old 06-21-2015, 07:40 AM   #1
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I detest doing free weight rows. I love doing machine/cable rows. I think the main benefit of free weight rows over machine rows is use of the core. Considering I don't use a belt for squats, deadlifts and overhead presses would using only machine rows be fine?

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Thanks. I remember you telling me not to be afraid of using machines but that was when I was still doing some free weight back work.
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Free weight BORs are amazing for deadlift assistance, but they aren't really great for back mass (although I'm sure there are many who would argue otherwise). I just find that my lower back and supporting muscles are fatigued well before my actual upper back. This isn't true with machines.
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Free weight BORs are amazing for deadlift assistance, but they aren't really great for back mass (although I'm sure there are many who would argue otherwise). I just find that my lower back and supporting muscles are fatigued well before my actual upper back. This isn't true with machines.
I completely agree. It's worse with barbell rows but even with dumbbell rows something always gives out before my upper back is tired.
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If you have access to a smith machine use that for rows. I love doing them that way because I feel I can get a better contraction and the top and I can do the movement slower without worrying about my lower back crapping out. Plus since the bar only has one path that it can travel you can position yourself accordingly to destroy your upper back.
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Do whatever's best for you. If you hate doing something, I believe at some point your body will stop using them optimally. If you hate that form of row, do cables. I personally would do cables as apposed to doing machine rows. That way you still get some stability and free range motion. But then again, you can work your back with various deadlift movements and pull ups.
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I actually really want a seated cable row in my garage. It's literally the only machine I miss.
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Thanks gents. My gym did have a cable row but it has been replaced with a plate loaded machine. It isn't ideal because the plane of motion isn't where I want it but if I stand up with my stomach against the pad it's a bit better. Either way I feel it in my upper back more than free weight rows.
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Have you tried doing 1 arm db rows with a bench to support you (knee and hand on bench)?

I haven't done seated cable rows much the last few years because I work out at home with a barbell, dumbells and some bands. I can see how someone could miss cable rows. They are a way to really get a good contraction on the back muscles. However, I don't feel like I have less mass or am at any disadvantage because I do not have access to them
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