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Old 03-17-2015, 04:50 AM   #1
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I noticed a lot of us do direct calves work (calves raises).
Putting aside aesthetic concerns, do you think direct calves work has a significant carryover to the squat and the deadlift, or is it just a detail for advanced lifters and time could be better spent?
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Old 03-17-2015, 06:45 AM   #2
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I noticed a lot of us do direct calves work (calves raises).
Putting aside aesthetic concerns, do you think direct calves work has a significant carryover to the squat and the deadlift, or is it just a detail for advanced lifters and time could be better spent?
I am not sure how much direct effect calves have on the squat and dead but it seems logical to me that they could be a weak link if undertrained.

If the support structure is weak the machine loses a percentage of its total lift capability.

I have horrible calves even with direct work - I shudder to imagine them without any.

Calf work sucks - do moar !!
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The only time I notice calves is during high rep sets of squats.

I will say that building a strong base is rarely a bad choice. A few sets a week to make the calves as strong as possible can't hurt.
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My calves have grown from squatting and deadlifting, so I figure making them stronger can only help. My favorite thing for them is dragging a weighted sled.
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My calves are small while my quads are large. Family genetics there, but heavy squat and direct calf work they actually have grown 0.75" in around 5 months
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Lots of the best old school powerlifters did direct calf work. Good enough for me. Besides, it isn't very time consuming or hard to add in, might as well cover your bases.
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From my limited experience I don't see how in the world it could and poundage to your lifts. I think there might be something to injury prevention though. A good conditioned muscle is less likely to get hurt or cause other areas grief from being weak and compensating.
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The only lifts that ever made my calves larger are the deadlift, the squat and the farmer walk. No direct work seemed to make any difference. Since I do lots of deadlifting and squat-type lifts plus heavy farmer walks on the week ends, I feel my calves have the work they need. I once did (too) frequent heavy deadlifts and got VERY sore in the calves, so yes, maybe later on when progress stalls I might benefit from a little direct work.
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Well think of it this way when you build a house, do you build the roof first? Or do you build the foundation? Of course you build or set the foundation same with the body, now you may or may not have the genetics to build the diamonds but I can tell from my experience that you need every part of structure to be strong whether you are squatting 500lbs. for PR or squatting 315 for high reps and they do also make your ankle stronger.
I hit them now once a week with moderate weights and high reps and go burning since are used to support me I tried heavy weights and low reps and the did not respond as when I went to the moderate weights so I say train them you have nothing to lose.
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I hit them now once a week with moderate weights and high reps and go burning since are used to support me I tried heavy weights and low reps and the did not respond as when I went to the moderate weights so I say train them you have nothing to lose.
I think this is an important point too; I always noticed the best gains when I kept the weight moderate, the reps high, and REALLY focused on holding the stretched and contracted positions for several seconds.
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