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Old 04-03-2014, 05:07 PM   #11
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I was picked on for leg pressing, so I stopped and just squat and hack squats. I wont mention any names........







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Old 04-03-2014, 06:01 PM   #12
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I personally know very few people who've had problems building wheels with just squats, to the point where it's very usual for people's squat to be limited by how much weight they can stay upright with and not how much force they can generate with their legs.

I religiously believe that the squat and deadlift are basically an expression of your lower body strength, and a huge part of strength is muscle mass. Build a big squat and deadlift and you're bound to get big legs and a booty that the ladies will envy.

This doesn't mean that I think it's impossible to get big legs without squats and deadlifts, but I do think that not doing those 2 lifts will take away from your progress.
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I was picked on for leg pressing, so I stopped and just squat and hack squats. I wont mention any names........







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Lets be clear...I did that because you leg pressed and DIDNT SQUAT! Also because you counted the weight on the leg press....never do that!
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Lets be clear...I did that because you leg pressed and DIDNT SQUAT! Also because you counted the weight on the leg press....never do that!
Well I stick to squats (which Im doing better at now then I ever have before) and Hack Squats, thank you JB, youve shown me the way...lol
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I would say the leg press is a good accessory movement after squats. Usually, its the low back, abs and hamstrings that are generally the weak links to your squat. But, what good lifter doesnt have massive quads?

P.S. I agree with Steve, dont really worry about your "weakness" just get stronger all over.
that's my understanding as well as the glutes , does this mean that crunches would be a good assistant squat exercise ?
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I would say yes. I don't leg press, I consider it wasted energy. Best way to improve the squat is more squatting in my opinion. I just don't see the point. I get some people want to burn out their legs with more stuff after their core fatigues and they can't keep squatting but in that case I would just lower the weight and do paused squats, or light front squats or squats off the bottom from the rack.
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No. Abs or core training is not as simple as flexing your six pack and I don't mean that to be a sound bite answer.

A strong squat comes from a strong midsection, sure. But that is built better by doing deadlifts, planks or leg raises for example. Your core muscles are a lot more complex than that though. You can have massively strong abs and a very weak core, in fact that's almost guaranteed. Your stomach muscles are only one quarter of your "core" muscles.

Your core is designed to stabilize your spine and transfer strength up your torso no matter your position. So imagine yourself as a pole. Your core has to stabilize your spine when leaning forward, backward, sideways and every other angle.

Stand upright and then lean forward, backward, sideways, etc. The muscles that fire when you do that are the ones you need to strengthen to squat and deadlift better.

The core exercises that hurt the most are the best ones for you, btw.

Leg press is definitely not a waste of time, but a natural motion made by your body in space is a lot more beneficial than one made by contorting yourself into a machine created by someone who thinks he knows how your bod should work and who wants to make a buck on that machine by the way.
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So how much ROM on leg press? Go to low and you have your pelvis fighting your lower back for control putting your lumbar in flexion with a ton of weight. Too little, and well you're missing out. I guess I can answer my own question and say stop short of pelvis moving and lumbar flexion.
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IT has it it's place IMO. It depends on your goal. Are you just trying to be massive or are you trying to be strong? Do you want to look good or perform in athletic way?

It depends, as I said. I prefer the squat (I used to prefer the leg press, but that's only cause it was all I had) because it covers than just building muscle, it's a builder of the mind also.

Both are good, squat is great. No harm in doing both
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