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Old 07-24-2013, 02:05 PM   #1
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As most of you know I was unable to perform my first 2 squats. I subsequently pulled out of the meet. I need to move on from this, but before I do so I want to explain what happened.

The Saturday before the meet I performed my last workout. Things were a bit jumbled so I ended up performing all 3 lifts on the same day.

The temperature that day was scalding hot. I was losing water rather quickly, and despite my best efforts to hydrate, started to feel off. After resting for 20 minutes I took a shower. Upon exiting the shower, I was still sweating profusely.

I continued to try and drink.

We took the family out to a restaurant where I continued to try and pound water. At the end of the meal I stood up and my entire body immediately cramped. I had charlie horses from head to toe and couldn't walk for 10 minutes. I had to stand in the middle of the restaurant enduring hamstring, quad, ab, oblique, chest and calve cramps. Again, these all happened simultaneously.

After being assisted to the car I insisted we continue with our plans and go see a movie. I would drink more at the theater and hopefully feel better. 40 ounces of liquid later, and 45 minutes into the flick, I tried to get up. I couldn't. Once again I experienced simultaneous charlie horses from head to toe.

I remained curled up in my seat for 15 minutes waiting for the cramps to go away.

After the movie was done I hadn't improved. By this time I couldn't move at all and was afraid that this cramping, and severe dehydration, might even cause heart issues. I nearly had my wife call 911. That was the plan if they couldn't get me out of the seat without head to toe cramps.

They managed to get me into the car. It took 30 minutes. I couldn't stroll more than a few inches at a time.

I spent the following 2 days in severe pain, unable to do the smallest thing without getting a random charlie horse. I consumed water ravenously, backing this consumption up with gatorade, potassium, sodium, taurine, and several other minerals.

For the entire week I rested completely. The only thing I did was eat, drink, sleep and take my supplements. I was still a wreck but was determined to try the meet.

Meet Day

Come meet day I was feeling 90%. Then I started warming up. I put 135 on the bar and could barely squat it. It was taking me forever to wrap and unwrap my knees.

By the time I was ready for my next warmup set I noticed I was running out of time. I bumped my warmup set to 315. Wraps on, and one person out from the monolift, a geared lifter jumped my set and started to hang from the bar in an attempt to tighten his suit.

10 minutes later he exited the mono. In the mean time, I was sitting there waiting, losing time, debating whether to unwrap my wraps. My legs started to go numb and I began sweating profusely. I loosened my wraps just as he left the monolift. After spending another 5 minutes regaining my composure, and sweating like a freak, I wrapped again and got in a 315 warmup.

315 felt impossibly heavy. My CNS wasn't right. On top of that I was feeling crampy and seriously dehydrated again. I felt like I was about to pass out so I simply sat down and drank until it was my time to lift.

Wrapping my knees on the platform I knew I was in trouble. Despite pounding water all day, I was dehydrated again, my CNS was sporked and I could barely stand. They made the call: "The bar is loaded" and I tried. 625 pounds on my back felt like 1300.

I couldn't lower the weight so I called for the spotter's help. I proceeded to sit down, drink, drink, drink and eat a protein bar. I kept telling myself "quitters don't quit." I was going to try a 625 once more.

As I stood my legs began to shake again uncontrollably and I knew my day was over. I racked the weight, sat down and asked Hunter to tell them that I was pulling out.

Final Thoughts

My training this year has been incredible. Switching to chains has rocketed my bench and deadlift through the roof. They have also allowed me to get more weight on my back during squats more frequently.

I like this training style, it is working well, and I am not changing a thing.

I am around a 1850-1900 pound raw total at the age of 45. I am injury free and happy.

I will continue to make adjustments and move forward.
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Old 07-24-2013, 02:12 PM   #2
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Keep going big man! Behind you all the way, unless you fart, then I'll run away like at the meet ! Smash everything in sight boss!!!
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Old 07-24-2013, 03:14 PM   #3
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Those cramps (and the sweating) sound really weird; were you taking anything different in the form of supplements, or dietary that may have reacted with supps, which may have been at the root of both episodes?

Literally, anything you did differently with regards to supps and/or food or food, supplement combo.


It could be that it was the heavy all-3-in-one session that caused it but the fact that it occurred a week later as well, warming up, leads me to wonder if there was some reaction to a food (fruit, that kind of thing) close to a supplement. It may not be, of course, but if the faintest possibility exists then it can be prevented from happening again.

I've had some meds too close to fruit, which is why I mentioned fruit, and they've caused bad chest and back pains that have lasted all day...so, it's just something to consider.
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Old 07-24-2013, 03:22 PM   #4
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It's sounds like an absolutely miserable time. Things can only get better though.
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That has to be immensely frustrating all your hard work put in with zero feedback. Chalk it up to a learning lesson. I believe you crashed your CNS big time BtB. check out the chart look at the symptoms.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attach...0&d=1129898535

Its a fine line to walk in regards to the CNS, hopefully you can recall some early signs for future meet preparation.

Glad your feeling much better now BtB. This will no doubt fuel your drive for the next meet.
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Thanks for the write up Steve - I was wondering what the hell went on that day. Now I am wondering (and a bit concerned) at what caused such severe dehydration. I hope you can figure it out somehow as I would hate to see it happen again.

We all know you got the 1900ish total in you right now. There is simply a delay in making it official.

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Disclaimer: I don't know what I'm talking about.

I think the first weekend was heat cramps, and the meet weekend was the result of not recovering from those cramps fully.

This article is a case study of a sixteen year old who suffered whole body cramps:

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The athlete began to feel extremely weak at the end of practice, he removed his helmet and shoulder pads, and as he entered the locker room, he began experiencing a painful muscle cramp in his low back. The painful muscle cramps continued throughout the athlete’s mid and low back muscles and spread to his bilateral quadriceps, hamstrings, and gastrocnemius muscles. His teammates attempted to passively stretch the cramped muscles and began to rehydrate him with water. The certified athletic trainer was called into the locker room, where she found
the athlete in excruciating pain and unable to move.
Sounds pretty similar to what you had. The article pins this on creatine (which I know you don't take), but another source says its straightforward sodium depletion:

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Sodium depletion that leads to whole-body cramping takes place even though most athletes consume far in excess of the required and recommended daily allowance of dietary sodium. The body does not store sodium for indefinite periods, as it does fat-soluble substances such as vitamin D. Excess sodium, while capable of unduly stressing the cardiovascular system, primarily through the high blood pressure that is a byproduct of the osmoregulatory process in sedentary persons, is excreted as urine.
It also says that it can primarily affect athletes with a preponderance of fast-twitch muscle fibres and low body fat .

My guess is that when you went into those body cramps, it was a really traumatic event for your body that you had not recovered from by the meet. I have noticed that if I have a period of cramping (say from squatting), it takes almost nothing to reactivate that cramping days later. And that's with cramps that are absolutely nothing compared to yours.

Add in the constricted blood flow from wraps and so on too.

The second article makes it clear that the cramps are no trivial matter:

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Playing through these often-debilitating cramps is likely impossible, and if the athlete attempts to force further strenuous movement from tissues that have sustained sodium depletion, the athlete is at risk of causing more serious muscular injury.
You've said in the past that you don't tolerate creatine well because of the extreme and painful back pumps it gives you. This makes me wonder if your physiology is susceptible to cramping issues in general if your electrolytes get out of whack.

Lastly, overhydration can lead to muscle cramping and weakness too, as you flush out too many electrolytes and alter the osmotic balance. You can't win!

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That's rough. But, easily won victories don't taste as sweet and your next meet will be like honey!
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Sounds like OMR, Tann and yourself are on to something...of course, the main thing to remember with rehydration, more so I guess in the presence of cramps, is that pure water is not the way to go, replacing the electrolytes and ensuing no further reduction in sodium depletion through more urination is paramount...I think a homemade concoction of 1/4 tsp salt in a quart of water, is one I've read of...but also, a pinch of salt in 1/2 orange juice and 1/2 water is great too.


I'd be more inclined to go with the half and half, water and juice, and a pinch of salt.




The addition of salt, of course, makes the body hang on to the water which is how it rehydrates as opposed to further dehydrates, which you probably already know but in case you or others didn't I've reiterated it, and that in turn permits the electrolytes to remain at a better level instead of being washed out.



I've also read, which may be interesting to some, that sports drinks (the ones sold as soft drinks at shops) don't have enough of a balance of ingredients in them to act as rehydration drinks in the sense shown above...just what I've read about them.
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