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Khamo 06-10-2013 06:14 PM

Switching to High Bar
 
Do you guys recommend it? im contemplating to do this because im an athlete(wrestling/sprinter) and i heard that high bar has a greater transfer to athletics than low bar. Also im running a weekly progression routine, texas method, and was wondering if the high bar squat would be good. i ask this because whenever i dont feel like i can lift up the weight i can always "spot" with my low back and help me get the weight up.

I want to know your guys' opinions. does it have more transfer to athletics? can i progress as easily as the low bar? does it have more risks than the low bar? ei more pressure on the spine.

thanks

Soldier 06-10-2013 06:24 PM

Experiment some, but remember even a high bar squatter keeps the bar on his traps and NOT on his spine. As far as transferring better to athletics, if your getting stronger then you'll be good, whichever hold you use.

If you really want to shift the focus of your lift then where you break is more important anyways. Break at the hips and you're going to bend over more and use more posterior chain, break at the knees and you'll get more quad. By break, I mean the first thing to move when you start your squat. I break at the hips, which means the very first things that happens when I squat is that I stick my butt out and bend my hips.

Khamo 06-10-2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier (Post 373398)
I mean the first thing to move when you start your squat.

Wow i didnt even think of that, thanks. I think i break mostly at the hips. plus i do a low bar squat, i think that is why my quad development isnt where it should be with my squat but, ill try out high bar for a few months just to see how it is. i like the concept of it because you cant cheat as much

schultzestrength 06-10-2013 06:58 PM

Just do it. I typically high bar on light to moderate weights when I'm further out from a competition. I transfer to low bar the last 6 weeks or so. They both have their benefits. As far as athletic ability goes neither one is going to make you more athletic but they both will make you a stronger athlete.

BendtheBar 06-10-2013 07:09 PM

Most squatters I know are high bar. I love it. Feels natural.

Like Schultz said, just go for it.

Bronco 06-10-2013 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BendtheBar (Post 373414)
Most squatters I know are high bar. I love it. Feels natural.

Like Schultz said, just go for it.

but are you going to not be able to squat as much weight with the high bar?

Khamo 06-10-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco (Post 373427)
but are you going to not be able to squat as much weight with the high bar?

Thats what i have heard, that 80-95% can move more weight with low bar, although as long as you train any movement hard, it will improve.

Soldier 06-10-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco (Post 373427)
but are you going to not be able to squat as much weight with the high bar?

Seems to work pretty well for this guy;


SecondsOut 06-10-2013 08:43 PM

it's difficult for me to consider anything other than this a proper squat:
i've read Louie Simmons's defenses of wide stance squats, and i know it's a topic that generates a lot of rage among lifters, but i have to say that i rarely ever see a powerlifter who squats well -- even though they're very strong in all the right places. i don't think I'll ever be convinced that they don't simply find that form/depth too unpleasant. i think "reluctance to squat deep" is disguised as "this form works for me" or "this form allows me to squat more pounds."

and if you think big dudes can't squat huge weights with "close stance," "high bar" form -- those terms are silly to me -- check this out:


i know this sounds like i'm sucking up, but BendtheBar is literally the first big powerlifter i've seen who seems to truly respect the proper squat. even Ed Coan seems to fold his upper body to create an illusion of depth in every competition of his i've seen. everyone talks about "parallel." it's bullshit. proper squat is all the way down. you don't even have to use the words "all the way down" because "squat" already means that.

Soldier 06-10-2013 08:55 PM

SO, you may eat those words if you ever compete in powerlifting. Whatever lets you lift the most with 2 white lights, THAT'S a squat, lol.


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