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Old 05-01-2013, 05:58 PM   #11
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You would be hard press to piss anyone off here. I love stuff like this personally. I rack pull. When I was making the best gains on my deadlift I would rotate hights of the pins (never above the bottom of my knee) and stances. Pulled off the floor ever 3-4 weeks. Then started over. Just what worked for me, but I sure as hell never pulled 800lbs.
I rotated my heights as well. I would do a 3 week rotation from floor, then from mid shin and then from mid knee. I fell into the trap of believing it would help me get stronger and save my back. The difference between us is that I am raw and you are geared. I meant my post more towards the raw guys. To many people try to mimic what the big names are doing and they never realize what it took for those guys to get there.

Hey if rack pulls are working for you then more power to ya. You have a nice total to show for it!
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I rotated my heights as well. I would do a 3 week rotation from floor, then from mid shin and then from mid knee. I fell into the trap of believing it would help me get stronger and save my back. The difference between us is that I am raw and you are geared. I meant my post more towards the raw guys. To many people try to mimic what the big names are doing and they never realize what it took for those guys to get there.

Hey if rack pulls are working for you then more power to ya. You have a nice total to show for it!
But a crap deadlift lol! See I pull traditional raw, sumo geared. My groin screams for mercy pulling raw sumo. Im all ears when it comes to improving.
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But a crap deadlift lol! See I pull traditional raw, sumo geared. My groin screams for mercy pulling raw sumo. Im all ears when it comes to improving.
Its all about the total! How far off is your conventional raw to your geared sumo?
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Its all about the total! How far off is your conventional raw to your geared sumo?
right now not sure, normally about 50lbs from each other. Not much of a difference in my deads from off a 100lb plate and without the deficit either.
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But a crap deadlift lol! See I pull traditional raw, sumo geared. My groin screams for mercy pulling raw sumo. Im all ears when it comes to improving.
My groin does the same thing when Sumo Raw...I think it's more of just a weak spot and mobility issues. Which I'm starting to work on now...
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I have actually always pulled off the floor as well. When I first started training I did rack pulls, and when I stopped doing them my deadlift started taking off (I am a raw lifter).

I tend to vary the reps as well, and will only hit 90%+ once or twice in a 6 week training cycle.
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You'd be hard-pressed to find great deadlifters who don't pull from the floor often, and as the main component of their deadlift training. As a novice lifter coming up, I was led to believe the deadlift was non-technical, and a totally different animal from the other two powerlifts. I think that's bad advice for most people and if you treat it primarily as a sport skill you'll be best served. Pulls from the floor and close variations seem to be the ticket for me. Right now I pull on one day, and do snatch pulls after squats on the other. A month out from my last meet I rotated in paused deads (1-2" off the ground) for the snatch pulls. The result was a 16 lb meet PR, and hitting a 551 pull after missing 545 on a third attempt 12 weeks before.
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