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big_swede 04-05-2013 05:03 AM

Bench Press for Strongman
 
By Mike Jenkins
Bench Press for Strongmen - Juggernaut Training Systems - Juggernaut Training Systems

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How much you bench bro? I always lie and say like 700 and the response I get is ďThatís not too bad!Ē Are you kidding? Now I come up with the most ridiculous number I can imagine and few are phased, I guess it would be like me responding to someone telling me about their Medical School entrance tests, I donít have a damn clue but I would say ďNot bad!Ē

Now to the matter at hand! Many of you have heard, or read that I do not bench very often. That would be a true statement. However I did for years and do have a real, actual respectable bench but I found other things help me in my quest to be the first man to press a 500 log in a contest. So, if you are just getting into the sport, bench away, bench your little ass of, do anything that gets you stronger as a whole. But for you that are looking to maybe bump your overhead up 25 or so pounds I am talking to you! When you look at any other athlete the use other forms of the same movement to get better at what they are elite at. Take a long jumper, he or she does not only go to practice and just jump, jump, jump! They do sprints and plyos to make then a more efficient jumper. Those movements are tools in their arsenal. Something you are familiar with and Brandon Lilly discusses this in the Cube, which I did read, probably five times and had this belief before and reassured my belief after. Brandon benches in competitions, fact, he does not do military press, dumbbell shoulder press or incline in contests. Though he does not do them on the platform he does however use them as tools to get a big bench. Now to my sport, I do not stand in the rack and only press logs or axles every workout. By doing certain movements in certain ways I can activate muscles that I would not be able to in a standing strict position. What do I do you ask? Though I do not flat bench I do however use incline, close grip floor press, floor press and variations of the same with dumbbells.

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So, why do I use variations of bench for a huge overhead? After I do my strict work I will resort to something that focuses on either some form of shoulder recruitment, some chest and tons of triceps. All the lifts that I mentioned before I rotate, Cube shout out bro, different weeks and with different bars, axles, swiss bars and logs. I had been doing this for a while now, just never knew how similar I thought to Brandon, great minds think alike! My main staple is floor press with either an axle or swiss bar, simulates a log but harder because the different range of motion, itís longer then a log. Well what the hell does lying on a floor pushing weight off your chest have to do with lifting something heavy as hell off your shoulders over your head? Well think about the last over head, or even bench you missed. Where did you miss it? You probably didnít get stapled to the bench unless it was just too damn heavy, I bet you missed it the last two inches of the lift. I know thatís where I missed my 484 log at WSM, my left arm was less than an inch from being locked out, triceps werenít strong enough! The floor press smokes your triceps and you even get a chest workout too but the triceps the limiting factor in most failed lifts. By using the different bars its challenges you to adapt each week and will carry over to a log and axle. Ok, makes sense right so why the incline? Once again you are lying down and taking weight out of a rack and stable, unlike standing with a log or axle on your chest. Take a look at anyone who close to a max effort log or axle at WSM, they have a serious arch in their back, in somewhat of a standing incline position. On the incline you are able to overload your body by being in that position without compromising your back rep after rep, you are stable and flat against the bench. Like the floor press does to the top of the press I feel the incline does to the bottom of the overhead press. The beginning of the lift starts on your chest just as an overhead does once you clean it. Your triceps cannot do jack if they do not get a chance because it doesnít get by your fat chin. This is a lift I believe will get it going to where you need those triceps. To be good at this lift you need to be fast off your chest. How do I generate speed, I generally start with the axle or log already on pins, in my case I have them on my Rogue spotter straps so it can easily move and doesnít damage the bar. Yes thatís correct, shameless sponsor plug! By taking the weight off my chest, not out of the rack, I have zero rebound. Like anything else I but the lift together in pieces to come to a final product, an overhead that makes dudes feel bad about their benches! Like I mentioned before you can exchange these with dumbbells if you see fit, that also helps with stabilizing each hand not just a single bar. I know people are wondering about hand placement, again, I rotate them. I do hit close grip floor press and close grip incline, just another variation to the lift. Obviously that will hit the triceps a little more I think itís the actual movement that is more important.

5kgLifter 04-05-2013 05:07 AM

Strangely, in relation to the press as you would for your sport aspect, I recently read a piece on Olympic lifters in which they don't press straight up with a dumbbell overhead press, as we would, but instead they allow their trajectory to follow/mimic that of the same end arm position as they would during the Olympic snatch movement.

RGRthat 04-05-2013 07:32 AM

Thanks Swede. I am really enjoying some of the strongman articles you are putting out there. Keep it up

big_swede 04-05-2013 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 5kgLifter (Post 346255)
Strangely, in relation to the press as you would for your sport aspect, I recently read a piece on Olympic lifters in which they don't press straight up with a dumbbell overhead press, as we would, but instead they allow their trajectory to follow/mimic that of the same end arm position as they would during the Olympic snatch movement.


That makes sense since Olympic lifts are as much technique as they are pure strength. If you practice a movement pattern that is different from your competition lift I can imagine it might have an negative impact in your snatch or C&J.

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Originally Posted by RGRthat (Post 346282)
Thanks Swede. I am really enjoying some of the strongman articles you are putting out there. Keep it up

Glad you enjoyed it!


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