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MikeM 04-02-2013 03:22 PM

A linear progression idea I'd like to try
 
So, JB has turned me on to linear progression and I love it. Some research on it later, I came up with the following routine and wondered what you guys think.

I'm around 1050 total and I have my squat and bench form in very good shape, my deadlift form is recently getting good too. So, I'm not all that advanced yet and I seriously think I need a LOT more volume to keep moving forward as well as I have this past year.

So goals for this program are to get my squat up around 415+, bench around 315 paused,and deadlift at least up over 425, more if it shoots up like I expect it too now that I know how to do it properly.

It's a 12 week program in which I will progress each week by 2.5% as well as by raising my max a bit each week if I make my reps well. Four days a week and two sessions per lift of the big four, a heavy day and a light day. So a heavy session and a light session of something else each day.

Heavy day:
Week 1+2: 3x 10@ 67.5% and 70% of true max, 5 lbs less if that max was really ugly this Saturday at the meet.
Week 3+4: 3x 8@ 72.5% and 75%
week 5+6: 3x 6@ 77.5% and 80%
Week 7+8: 3x 5@ 82.5% and 85% (week 8 might be 2x 4)
Week 9+10: 2x 3@ 87.5% and 90% (week 9 might be 2x 4)
Week 11: 2x2 @92.5%
week 12: 1x 2@ 95%
Test: Mock meet

Each day, I will also be doing a light session of the other upper or lower lift, so Monday: heavy deadlift and light squat, Tuesday: heavy bench and light OH, Thursday: Heavy squat and light deadlift (likely Sumo), Friday: Heavy OHP and light bench. I'm adding this light session purely for volume, form, and hypertrophy, it shouldn't really be all that taxing other than overall. Guys who lift a lot more than me get their volume on their warmups for their heavy session and probably don't need the extra work, but I think I do at this stage.

Light days start at two weeks of 2x 12-15@ 50% and move to 3x 12@55% in weeks 3+4, then taper down in reps all the way down to 3x 5@80%

Those lifts are most important. Assistance is not optional, but also not crucial if I'm not feeling good that day.

Assistance will rotate between working bottom of lift one week and top the next. So, pause reps one week and RAM or Knee Wraps the next week for squat and bench, low and hi Pin for deadlifts, and Inclines and Push Press for OH. Assistance will taper off as weeks progress.

I will also try to do a superset of muscle stuff for the main muscle of each day, quad stuff on squat day, triceps on bench, etc.

Some other odds and ends, Abs and Lats here and there in those supersets at the end, but that is the basic idea. Some strongman stuff thrown in for fun here and there on good days too, etc.

Tons of reps per week, especially on deadlift which I think I have been babying because I wasn't doing it right and always dinging up my back. Now, I do it right and I think it needs some serious work and often, both to hone in form and to get my pitiful max in it a LOT better. I have no trouble squatting or benching twice a week, so no worries there.

If I do this right, I can hit those target numbers at the end. I also intend to eat well during all this. Hopefully not sloppy fat, but I'm sure I'll gain some. We'll see. Might also shed some fat given the volume too, who knows?

Anyway, as I said it's an experiment. Ambitious possibly, but I have a fall back plan with 2 work sets a day instead of 3 if I really start to falter. I don't think so though. I ran out the numbers and I think I will be fine as long as I don't get crazy with assistance stuff. Heck, if I really tank, I can just do BIG again.

So an experiment in old school lifting to see how I do with it. I think it will be hard, but fun too.

J_Byrd 04-02-2013 03:36 PM

I think you have the idea down. The real progress will come with the selection of aux movements to compliment the progression.

My worry is this, much like we ran into before about heavy deads and squats in the same week. Might want to look at maybe extending the cycle out an extra 2-3 weeks and rotating the heavy squat/dead. Just playing devils advocate

elijah 04-02-2013 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by J_Byrd (Post 345212)
I think you have the idea down. The real progress will come with the selection of aux movements to compliment the progression.

My worry is this, much like we ran into before about heavy deads and squats in the same week. Might want to look at maybe extending the cycle out an extra 2-3 weeks and rotating the heavy squat/dead. Just playing devils advocate

This is what Grimwood does in his linear routines from Grimwood Strength Systems. He's not an advocate of heavy deads and heavy squats in the same week either. He also focused on the secondary lifts as being vital to helping the big 3 improve as well. I enjoyed solid beginner gains for a good 9 months on that program. Maybe I need to revisit it?

MikeM 04-02-2013 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_Byrd (Post 345212)
I think you have the idea down. The real progress will come with the selection of aux movements to compliment the progression.

My worry is this, much like we ran into before about heavy deads and squats in the same week. Might want to look at maybe extending the cycle out an extra 2-3 weeks and rotating the heavy squat/dead. Just playing devils advocate

Yeah, and thanks to you, I have a pretty good idea what assistance movements work well for me, so I think I'm good there. I will also track that and see if it changes as I go along.

I thought about the clash of heavy squats and deads, especially towards the end of the cycle. I don't think it will be a problem until the last four weeks.

Anyway, my thought was to either swap days and do both heavy lifts on the same day, therefore getting a good week before I had to hit them hard again. Or I was going to jigger the percentages and reps so that I could do a heavy and light week like you suggest, but keep the the weeks set at 12.

I do like the idea of adding a few weeks though and cycling them exactly as you suggest. Out of the three options, I will figure it out once I get to that point which is I think I should do.

Thanks JB!! Thanks Elijah! Always good to have another point of view.

J_Byrd 04-02-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by elijah (Post 345235)
This is what Grimwood does in his linear routines from Grimwood Strength Systems. He's not an advocate of heavy deads and heavy squats in the same week either. He also focused on the secondary lifts as being vital to helping the big 3 improve as well. I enjoyed solid beginner gains for a good 9 months on that program. Maybe I need to revisit it?

I still use a version of it after all these years. Just food for thought.


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