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Soldier 03-16-2013 09:36 PM

Getting into gear
 
So I'm pretty committed to competing in powerlifting, and if I do something I prefer to go all in. I've been looking to get into entry level, single ply gear. So far I've seen a lot of good stuff on Titan, but I know getting into gear is a balancing act. I've read about guys who got into the more hardcore stuff but had trouble transitioning because of too much carryover.

I'm currently looking at the Titan F6 bench shirt and the Titan Centurion squat suit, but I'm not even close to commited to these. I'm interested in whatever will work for a beginner with gear but will also give me the most bang for my buck.

I already get almost 60lb on my bench just from a slingshot, so I'd love to see what I can get out of an actual bench shirt.

Also, would it be ok for me to deadlift in my squat suit? Just a shirt and a squat suit are already going to be a big investment for me at this point.

So, for you guys who compete in gear, what would you suggest for someone in my position?

Soldier 03-16-2013 09:51 PM

Also, do you wear briefs under single ply in competition?

J_Byrd 03-16-2013 10:31 PM

I'm on my phone right now, so I'll save the long reply for computer. F6 is a great starting shirt. Super centurion is the best single ply suit hands down. 99% of Feds do not allow briefs. If u pull sumo you can pull in the centurion no problem. Traditional, not sure.

evilinmotion 03-17-2013 12:08 AM

Traditional DL in a Super centurion sucks at the begining...my first few ones in the gym with the straps up were a fail! when i finally figured out how to get down to the bar it was awesome, grab and get ready to pop up...

LtL 03-17-2013 05:39 AM

Having made the jump into gear last year I will start by saying that in my research and the guys that I have lifted with in gear, the Super Centurion is hands down the best suit out there. Most Feds don't allow briefs under the suit so don't bother with them.

Do you have access to equipped guys to train with? That will help you make the decision of what shirt to use. IMO shirts are harder to learn than the squat suits. Suits need a more precise form and very strong stability but shirts are just next level. Getting that bar to touch for the first time can be hellish. When I committed to going full ROM for the first time (more on this later) it took me 8 or 9 attempts over 2 sessions over 2 separate weeks with 180kgs (396lbs) to finally touch! Anyways back on point. If you have guys that train equipped, ask their advice. Knowing how to work a particular shirt is invaluable knowledge and will make more difference to your numbers than a better shirt without the guidance. That being said if you don't have access to equipped knowledge, I would recommend a new F6 or a used Super Katana. I went with a new Super Katana and it is an absolute beast of a shirt to get used to. You can do it, I did but it took a long time.

For deadlifts it depends on what stance you pull so more info needed there. Also gear gives you less advantage on pulls than the other 2 lifts.

I know you asked about gear choice but I also feel like there is advice that would have helped me in my transition. I'll be brief as I think this is already a short story of a post :)

- Get in your gear and get used to it but DON'T neglect your raw strength. You need both technique and raw power to get the most out of it.

- Be aware that some of your geared sessions will be tremendously frustrating. Gear can really throw you off and some sessions serve only to show you what doesn't work. Treat this as a lengthy process and focus on the end goal.

- With the shirt if you aren't used to board pressing then try to touch from your first session without them. You can still use boards but I wouldn't recommend using them exclusively.

- Lastly even if you can't regularly train with equipped lifters, find a crew within a fair drive and have a couple of sessions with them. I took days off work and drove 6 hours round trips to train with people like Faz but I learnt more in 2 hours there than I did in 2 months training alone or with people who didn't know the gear.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.

IronWill 03-17-2013 05:59 AM

Couple of questions: What does this term 'carryover' mean? And when you say briefs, I assume you don't mean Fruit of the Looms?

LtL 03-17-2013 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by IronWill (Post 337604)
Couple of questions: What does this term 'carryover' mean? And when you say briefs, I assume you don't mean Fruit of the Looms?

Carryover is the difference between your raw lift and the equipped one. Briefs are just a suit without straps. See pictures below:

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Soldier 03-17-2013 06:49 AM

IronWill- Carryover is how much the gear adds to your lift. Briefs are kind of like a squat suit without straps.

I pull conventional. I know it would probably be hard to get down there, but I'd probably just pull raw if I can't use the squat suit. My raw deadlift is much better than my squat anyways.

I don't know anyone who even LIFTS here, let alone someone who does powerlifting in gear. I've never even been to a powerlifting meet, or seen gear in person. I train alone in my garage.

Well, evidently I'll be looking more into the super centurion.

Thanks for all the advice so far. Like I said, I've got no guidance around here. I've got to get all my info online. I'm going to look more into the F6 or a used super katana along with the super centurion.

LtL 03-17-2013 07:11 AM

If you're lifting alone, here is a GREAT video for you:

http://youtu.be/9Jw_4C8n7I4

Soldier 03-17-2013 08:04 AM

Thanks ltl. Very informative. I already bench with safety rails, so no worries there. I have no interest in dying for a bench press.


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