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Old 11-29-2012, 03:23 AM   #1
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Default Ideal strength ratios on the main lifts

I am interested to find out what guys believe would be an ideal strength ratio between the main lifts.

Does the following sound about right ?

Deadlift 125 kilos
Squat 100 Kilos
Bench 75 Kilos
Row 75 Kilos
Power clean 60 Kilos
Standing press 50 Kilos

How important is it to have an ideal ration between these lifts? Would having a stronger bench than Deadlift be a matter of concern?
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:25 AM   #2
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:31 AM   #3
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For a raw lifter I would expect the following deadlift > squat > bench > standing press.
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Surely these details are somewhat missing the point.

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Would having a stronger bench than Deadlift be a matter of concern?
A 125kg deadlift for an able bodied man is the real matter of concern.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:50 AM   #5
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Surely these details are somewhat missing the point.



A 125kg deadlift for an able bodied man is the real matter of concern.
I was trying to keep the numbers simple, it was the ratio/comparison between the main lifts that I was after.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:12 AM   #6
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I was trying to keep the numbers simple, it was the ratio/comparison between the main lifts that I was after.
You're missing my point.

There is no ideal ratio/comparison and no effort should be made to try and downplay one strength to balance out another. Getting strong in everything is the goal, you may find with some balanced training that you have one lift which shoots ahead and that's fine.

Of all the great lifters and lifts in history; such as Young's Bench, Gant's Deadlift very few of them were remembered because of their perfectly balanced ratio of lifts!
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The minimum goals I would like to see most average gym rats shoot for are:

OHP - 200
Bench - 300
Squat - 400
Deadlift - 500

But there is so much variance. Bench and deadlifts are a thorn in the side of many lifters.
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The minimum goals I would like to see most average gym rats shoot for are:

OHP - 200
Bench - 300
Squat - 400
Deadlift - 500

But there is so much variance. Bench and deadlifts are a thorn in the side of many lifters.
Crikey, every one of those seem a million miles off
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Old 11-29-2012, 01:56 PM   #10
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The minimum goals I would like to see most average gym rats shoot for are:

OHP - 200
Bench - 300
Squat - 400
Deadlift - 500

But there is so much variance. Bench and deadlifts are a thorn in the side of many lifters.

I'm on the same page, at least for my goals are pretty close to these numbers..

OHP - 175
Bench - 315
Squat - 355
Deadlift - 505

Those are without consideration to ratio between each other, but I certainly wouldn't neglect any one part of my body too much.

I had a guy on an old softball team, upper body was immense. Easily pushed 315 bench around, big arms and not fat...but he could squat a damn thing. Looked so funny to see tank with chicken legs..
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