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Old 08-17-2012, 10:43 AM   #11
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My calves grew like crazy when i trained them several times a week, especially using constant tension protocol. Back wise, I believe people undertrain their back or don't know how to properly stimulate the back muscles because we can't see them. I know personally i've been training my back 2-3 times a week because that it one of my weakness and where I have a lot of asymmetrical strength. Mainly do towards tightness in the anterior torso. Not going to lie, i like to bench press. hahah
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:45 AM   #12
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I guess I'm in the minority as far as Shrugs. In my experience I have found them to be effective. And I have found them to be effective with out deadlift heavy loads. Obviously other big and strong guys have not found the same to be true.
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Old 08-17-2012, 12:56 PM   #13
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I'm with you on this one, just like with calves alot of reps and volume have proved to be most effective for me!
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Other than shrugs, I would say heavy deadlift singles and overhead presses offer the most benefit.
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yup just do what works for you..me doing heavy weight on shrugs doesnt do anything for me, but higher reps with a moderate rep does wonders.

also, when i do hang cleans and power cleans, they definitely grow.
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I includ traps and neck with upper back work. Trap work is very important.
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