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Old 08-05-2012, 10:24 AM   #1
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No matter how you like to classify yourself, unless you’re competing, you are NOT a powerlifter.
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Obviously I’m biased on this view…but the focus of this piece is not to judge those who haven’t yet competed…it’s to convince you to take the plunge.
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Competition is a much greater CNS stimulus than training is. Learn to harness it, and you will set yourself up to exceed your best day in the gym by a considerable margin, just by stepping onto the platform. The trick here, is that it can take time to learn to control the rush of energy and emotion that typically accompanies hearing your name, along with “bar is loaded.”
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No matter how hard you think you’ve worked in the gym, the meet will tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt whether you really put the work in, or you were just kidding yourself for the last 16 weeks. Your friends might tell you that your squats were “right there” but the judges will tell you the truth.
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without a meet to take into consideration, it’s much tougher to make the right call. Incidentally, in my experience, most non-competitive lifters will make the mistake of going all-out too often, leading to stagnation and injury.

Competitive lifters, on the other hand, tend to make much more progress year in and year out, because they not only know what they are doing, but why they are doing it. Elite and pro lifters know when to toe the line, and when to take a step back.
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Old 08-05-2012, 11:27 AM   #2
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No matter how you like to classify yourself, unless you’re competing, you are NOT a powerlifter.
Thats an opinion, not a fact. It's an opinion I do not really support.
I used to skydive but I never competed. Did that mean I was not a skydiver?

Basically, I say BS. Get over yourself with this type of thinking. I've heard the same crap form all kinds of groups.

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WHAT? You're not judging, but you want people to go be judged in order to fit into your special club.

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Competition is a much greater CNS stimulus than training is. Learn to harness it, and you will set yourself up to exceed your best day in the gym by a considerable margin, just by stepping onto the platform. The trick here, is that it can take time to learn to control the rush of energy and emotion that typically accompanies hearing your name, along with “bar is loaded.”
More of the same blathering. I'm not discounting that cometition can be fun, but it is not a requirement.

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without a meet to take into consideration, it’s much tougher to make the right call. Incidentally, in my experience, most non-competitive lifters will make the mistake of going all-out too often, leading to stagnation and injury.

Competitive lifters, on the other hand, tend to make much more progress year in and year out, because they not only know what they are doing, but why they are doing it. Elite and pro lifters know when to toe the line, and when to take a step back.


Look, if you want to compete, great! Go have fun, and do your best. If you choose not to compete, you can still be just as serious a lifter as those that have chosen to get on the stage.
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Thats an opinion, not a fact. It's an opinion I do not really support.
No GL, Powerlifting is a sport defined by a number of parameters, one of which entails competing at a sanctioned Meet.

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International Powerlifting Federations

* Global Powerlifting Alliance (GPA)
* Global Powerlifting Committee (GPC)
* Global Powerlifting Federation (GPF)- Official Magazine HARD GAMES
* International Powerlifting Federation (IPF)
* International Raw Powerlifting (IRP)
* World Drug-Free Powerlifting Federation (WDFPF)
* World Powerlifting Association (WPA)
* World Powerlifting Congress (WPC)
* World Powerlifting Federation (WPF)
* World United Amateur Powerlifting (WUAP)

United States Powerlifting Federations

* 100% Raw Powerlifting (RAW)
* Amateur Athletic Union Powerlifting (AAU)
* American Drug-Free Powerlifting Federation (ADFPF)
* American Frantz Powerlifting Federation (AFPF/AAFPF)
* American Powerlifting Association (APA)
* American Powerlifting Committee (APC)
* American Powerlifting Federation (APF/AAPF)
* Anti Drug Athletes United (ADAU)
* Appalachian Powerlifting (APL)
* Eagle Strength Association (ESA)
* Eeastern States Powerlifting Federation (ESPF)
* Elite Powerlifting Federation (EPF)
* Gym Warriors (GW)
* Hardcore Powerlifting
* Independent Bodybuilding Powerlifting Association (IBPA)
* Inland Empire Lifting League (IELL)
* International Powerlifting Association (IPA)
* International Strength Association (ISA)
* Iron Boy Powerlifting (IBP)
* Metroflex Strength Association (MSA)
* Midwest Powerlifting Federation (MWPLF)
* Minnesota Powerlifting Federation (MPF)
* Natural Athlete Strength Association (NASA)
* Northern Virginia Raw Powerlifting (NOVA)
* Pure Athletic Power (PAP)
* Pride Powerlifting (PRIDE)
* Professional Raw Powerlifting Association (PRPA)
* Pennsylvania Powerlifting Association (PPA
* Python Power League (PPL)
* RAW United (RAWU)
* Son Light Power (SLP)
* Southern Powerlifting Federation (SPF)
* Syndicated Strength Alliance (SSA)
* Texas Powerlifting Federation (TPF)
* United Powerlifting Association (UPA)
* United States Powerlifting Association (USPA)
* United States Powerlifting Federation (USPF)
* USA Powerlifting (USAPL)
* World Association of Benchers and Deadlifters (WABDL)
* World Class Powerlifting Federation (WCPF)
* World Natural Powerlifting Federation (WNPF)
* World Natural Powerlifting Federation Lifetime (WNPFLT)

U.S. High School Powerlifting Federations

* Louisiana High School Powerlifting Association (LHSPLA)
* Michigan High School Powerlifting Association (MHSPA)
* Mississsippi High School Athletic Association (MHSSA)
* Texas High School Powerlifting Association (THSPA) / Texas High School Women's Powerlifting Association (THSPA)
* Wisconsin High School Powerlifting Association (WHSPA)

Canada Powerlifting Federations

* 100% RAW Canada
* Canadian Drug-Free Powerlifting Association (CDFPA)
* Canadian Powerlifting Association (CPA)
* Canadian Powerlifting Federation (CPF)
* Canadian Powerlifting Union (CPU)
* Independent Powerlifting Association (IPA)

Regional Powerlifting Federations


* African Powerlifting Federation IPF Affiliated
* Asia Powerlifting Federation (APF) IPF Affiliated
* Asia GPF Powerlifting Federation GPF Affiliated
* Asian Raw Powerlifting Federation 100% RAW Affiliated
* European Powerlifting Federation (EPF) IPF Affiliated
* Oceania Powerlifting Federation (OPF) IPF Affiliated
* Oceania Powerlifting Organization (OPO) WPC Affiliated
* North American Powerlifting Federation (NAPF) IPF Affiliated
* South American Powerlifting Federation (FE.SU.PO) IPF Affiliated
* United Powerlifter WUAP Affiliated

Argentina Powerlifting Federations

* Federacion Argentina de Levantamientos de Potencia IPF Affiliated
* Alianza Argentina de Powerlifting GPA/WPC Affiliated

Australia Powerlifting Federations

* CAPO Powerlifting WPC & GPC Affiliated
* Powerlifting Australia IPF Affiliated
* Victoria Drug Free Powerlifting Association WDFPF Affiliated

Austria Powerlifting Federations

* Austria World Powerlifting Congress GPC Affiliated
* Austrian Powerlifting Federation IPF Affiliated
* UAP Austria WUAP Affiliated
* WPC Austria WPC Affiliated

Azerbaijan Powerlifting Federations

* WPC Azerbaijan WPC Affiliated

Barbados Powerlifting Federations

* Barbados Powerlifting & Strength Association IPF Affiliated

Belarus Powerlifting Federations

* Belarus Powerlifting Federation IPF Affiliated
* Belarus GPF Powerlifting Federation GPF Affiliated

Belgium Powerlifting Federations

* Belgium Drug Free Powerlifting Federation WDFPF Affiliated
* GPC Belgium GPC Affiliated
* Royal Belgian Weightlifting Federation IPF Affiliated

Brazil Powerlifting Federations

* ALIANÇA NACIONAL DA FORÇA (National Strength Alliance) GPC/SSA Affiliated
* Brazilian Powerlifting Confederation IPF Affiliated
* GPC Brazil GPC Affiliated
* WPC Brazil WPC Affiliated

Bulgaria Powerlifting Federations

* WPC Bulgaria WPC Affiliated

Columbia Powerlifting Federations

* Colombian Powerlifting Federation IPF Affiliated

Costa Rica Powerlifting Federations

* Asociación Deportiva de Levantamiento de Potencia (ADELEPO) IPF Affiliated

Czech Republic Powerlifting Federations

* Czech Powerlifting Federation IPF Affiliated
* GPC Czech Republic GPC Affiliated
* WPC Czech Republic WPC Affiliated

Denmark Powerlifting Federations

* Danish Powerlifting Federation IPF Affiliated

England Powerlifting Federations

* British Drug Free Powerlifting Association (BDFPA)
* British Powerlifting Congress (BPC)
* British Powerlifting Organization (BPO)
* GPC Great Britain (GPCGB)
* Great Britain Powerlifting Federation (GBPF)

Estonia Powerlifting Federations

* WPC Estonia WPC Affiliated

Finland Powerlifting Federations

* Finland Powerlifting Organization GPC Affiliated
* Finnish Powerlifting Federation IPF Affiliated
* WPC Finland WPC Affiliated
* Raw Power Association

France Powerlifting Federations


* Commission Sportive Nationale de Force Athletique IPF Affiliated
* GPC France GPC Affiliated
* L'Association Francaise de Force Fitness & Body-Building WPC Affiliated

Germany Powerlifting Federations

* German Drug Free Powerlifting Federation (GDFPF) WDFPF Affiliated
* German Powerlifting Federation IPF Affiliated
* German Raw Association (GRAWA)
* World Powerlifting Congress Germany GPC Affiliated
* WPC Germany WPC Affiliated

Great Britain Powerlifting Federations

* British Drug Free Powerlifting Association (BDFPA)
* British Powerlifting Congress (BPC)
* British Powerlifting Organization (BPO)
* GPC Great Britain (GPCGB)
* Great Britain Powerlifting Federation (GBPF)

Guatemala Powerlifting Federations

* Federación Nacional de Levantamiento de Potencia de Guatemala IPF Affiliated

Hong Kong Powerlifting Federations

* Hong Kong Weightlifting and Powerlifting Association IPF Affiliated

Hungary Powerlifting Federations

* Hungarian Powerlifting Federation IPF Affiliated
* Hungarian Professional Powerlifting League GPC Affiliated
* WPC Hungary WPC Affiliated

Iceland Powerlifting Federations

* Icelandic Powerlifting Federation IPF Affiliated
* Íslenska Kraftlyftingafélagsins Metal (IKF) WPF Affiliated

India Powerlifting Federations

* India 100% RAW 100% RAW Affiliated

Iran Powerlifting Federations

* WPC Iran WPC Affiliated
* WPF Iran WPF Affiliated

Ireland Powerlifting Federations

* Irish Drug-Free Powerlifting Association (IDFPA) WDFPF Affiliated
* Irish Powerlifting Federation (IPF) IPF Affiliated
* Irish Global Powerlifting Committee GPC Affiliated
* Irish Powerlifting Organization (IPO) WPF Affiliated
* WPC Ireland WPC Affiliated

Israel Powerlifting Federations

* GPC Israel GPC Affiliated
* WPC Israel WPC Affiliated

Italy Powerlifting Federations

* Federazione Italiana Powerlifting IPF Affiliated
* WPC Italy WPC Affiliated

Japan Powerlifting Federations

* Japan Powerlifting Association (JPA) IPF Affiliated

Korea Powerlifting Federations

* WPC Korea WPC Affiliated

Kyrgyzstan Powerlifting Federations

* Kyrgyzstan Powerlifting Federation IPF Affiliated
* WPC Kyrgyzstan WPC Affiliated

Latvia Powerlifting Federations

* Speka Pasaule GPC Affiliated
* WPC Latvia WPC Affiliated

Lithuania Powerlifting Federations

* Lithuanian Powerlifting Federation IPF Affiliated

Luxembourg Powerlifting Federations

* Fédération Luxemburgeoise d'Haltérophile, de Lutte et de Powerlifting IPF Affiliated
* Powerlifting Luxembourg WPF Affiliated

Malta Powerlifting Federations

* Malta Drug-Free Powerlifting Association (MDFPA) WDFPF Affiliated

Morocco Powerlifting Federations

* WPC Morocco WPC Affiliated

Namibia Powerlifting Federations

* WPC Namibia WPC Affiliated

Netherlands & Holland Powerlifting Federations

* Dutch Powerlifting Federation IPF Affiliated
* WPC Holland WPC Affiliated

New Zealand Powerlifting Federations

* New Zealand Powerlifting Federation IPF Affiliated

Norway Powerlifting Federations

* Norwegian Powerlifting Federation IPF Affiliated

Pakistan Powerlifting Federations

* WPC Pakistan WPC Affiliated

Panama Powerlifting Federations

* Asociacion Panamena de Powerlifting y Acondicionamiento Fisico (APPLAF) IPF Affiliated

Philipines Powerlifting Federations

* Powerlifting Association of the Philippines (PAP) IPF Affiliated

Poland Powerlifting Federations


* GPC Poland GPC Affiliated
* Polski Zwiazek Kulturystyki I Trijboju Silowego IPF Affiliated
* Professional Powerlifting Poland WPC/AWPC, WUAP Affiliated
* WPC Poland WPC Affiliated

Puerto Rico Powerlifting Federations

* Puerto Rico Powerlifting Federation IPF Affiliated
* WPC Puerto Rico WPC Affiliated

Russia Powerlifting Federations

* Bogatyrskoe Bratstvo (BB) GPA Affiliated
* Moscow Region Powerlifting Federation (FPMR)
* Russian Powerlifting Federation (RPF) IPF Affiliated
* Russia Drug Free Powerlifting Federation WDFPF Affiliated
* WPA Russia WPA Affiliated
* WPC Russia WPC/GPC Affiliated

Scotland Powerlifting Federations

* Scottish Powerlifting Association IPF Affiliated

Slovakia Powerlifting Federations

* AWPC Slovakia WUAP Affiliated
* Slovak Bodybuilding, Fitness and Powerlifting Association IPF Affiliated
* Slovak Powerlifting & Bench Press Federation GPC Affiliated
* WPC Slovakia WPC Affiliated

South Africa Powerlifting Federations

* South African Powerlifting Federation IPF Affiliated
* WPC South Africa WPC Affiliated
* WPC South Africa WPC Affiliated

Sri Lanka Powerlifting Federations


* WPC Sri Lanka WPC Affiliated

Sweden Powerlifting Federations

* Swedish Powerlifting Federation IPF Affiliated
* WPC Sweden WPC Affiliated

Switzerland Powerlifting Federations

* Swiss Powerlifting Committee GPC/WPC/WUAP Affiliated
* Swiss Drug-Free Powerlifting Federation WDFPF Affiliated
* Swiss Powerlifting Congress (SPC) IPF Affiliated

Turkmenistan Powerlifting Federations


* Athletic Union of Turkmenistan IPF Affiliated

Ukraine Powerlifting Federations

* Global Power Union GPC Affiliated
* Ukraine Powerlifting Committee WPC/WPF Affiliated
* Ukraine Powerlifting Federation (UPF) IPF Affiliated
* Ukrainian Drug Free Powerlifting Federation (UDFPF) WDFPF Affiliated
* Ukraine Powerlifting Organization (UPO) IPA Affiliated
* WPA-Ukraine (WPAU) WPA/APA Affiliated

Wales Powerlifting Federations

* Welsh Powerlifting WPF/BDFPA/BPC/BWLA/WSA Affiliated

Found this amusing as well.

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I don't give a crap about labels.
I don't give a **** what you care about, you're kidding yourself if you think it's the same and it's disrespectful to me and other competitors who actually compete and put it on the line on the day.

You're nothing but a pretender, a keyboard warrior. Pathetic.
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No GL, Powerlifting is a sport defined by a number of parameters, one of which entails competing at a sanctioned Meet.

If you do not, you're not a Powerlifter. That is a fact.
I wasn't aware that being a competitive powerlifter got you a capital letter. Is it a title like Doctor?

Seriously, this is why the English language has adjectives, words which describe or qualify a noun. Like "competitive" or "non-competitive."

People who do the three lifts are powerlifters. People who compete are competitive powerlifters. I don't think we need to say "non-competitive" when talking about most powerlifters, usually you omit the adjective when that's the default and most common case.

There are powerlifters, and there are competitive powerlifters. You're a competitive powerlifter. That's great, it's a lot of hard work and effort, and the competitive powerlifting community is a wonderful one, everyone supports each-other.

I think that was something missing from the article: the camaraderie of competition. Most people in gyms work out on their own, and if you get a bigger lift than someone else, they envy you or even put you down or mumble something about "deadlifts are bad for your back, I used to lift heavy like you but..."

In a competition, most of those there support each-other. You come into your last deadlift attempt with a 10kg jump, and the guy whose total you're trying to beat by 5kg will be the guy who cheers you on the loudest. The top guy in the competition will offer advice to some of the bottom guys.

Not only that, but all the officials at the meet are current or former lifters. Who do you think does the spotting and loading? At an elite meet, the amateur lifters will show up to spot and load, at any amateur the elite lifters show up. At a meet where people are getting 1,000 totals you'll get 2,000 total guys loading your bar. Is there any other sport where that happens?

The reason to compete is not so that you can put a capital P in front of "powerlifter." It's the camaraderie, the community. It makes you a better lifter, and a better person.
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I wasn't aware that being a competitive powerlifter got you a capital letter. Is it a title like Doctor?
Trying to get a laugh by picking on my grammar? Go **** yourself.

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There is no competitive powerlifter or powerlifter. Powerlifting is a sport and the rules are defined by that sport. The rules state lifts must be done in competition infront of three judges. Don't make a mockery of that just because you want add your adjectives where they don't belong. They're NOT the same, like I've been saying all along. So call it what it is.

Well written and lengthy response, perhaps that's why you saw fit to start your reply with a quip about my grammar, but the same tired garbage.

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We had a similar discussion regarding bodybuilding a while back. For a long time I called myself a bodybuilder. I wasn't trying to fool anyone into thinking I competed. I just liked bodybuilding, trained for muscle size, and used the term.

To be honest, competing in bodybuilding wasn't even on my radar. I had no clue natural competitions existed. I thought at my size everyone assumed there was no way I would, or could compete.

In addition, I always looked at bodybuilding as a process, not a sport...building the body. The Merriam-Webster definition is:

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I think this is how most people view bodybuilding: as a process and not necessarily a sport. That is where I was for a long time.

Now that I work in the industry and am familiar with the sport of bodybuilding and the athletes, I make sure to avoid the use of the term. It can be confusing, and misinterpreted.

On the other hand, powerlifting is a specific sport. It developed from odd lifting, and tends to be viewed by the public as a sport rather than a process. The Merriam-Webster definition reflects this:

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So, I probably made Rich mad again. I still tend to see bodybuilding as a process, and powerlifting as a sport. But I certainly understand and respect his point of view.

Either way I don't want to piss anyone off. Results are the only thing I really give a crap about.
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Trying to get a laugh by picking on my grammar? Go **** yourself.
For a guy who talks tough, you do seem to have sensitive feelings. If you're so tough, surely you can take a little gentle mockery in text on a forum?

You ignored the part about the camaraderie of the sport. Perhaps it's not important to you. Okay, we'll call you a Powerlifter from now on. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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I wasn't aware that being a competitive powerlifter got you a capital letter. Is it a title like Doctor?

Seriously, this is why the English language has adjectives, words which describe or qualify a noun. Like "competitive" or "non-competitive."

People who do the three lifts are powerlifters. People who compete are competitive powerlifters. I don't think we need to say "non-competitive" when talking about most powerlifters, usually you omit the adjective when that's the default and most common case.

There are powerlifters, and there are competitive powerlifters. You're a competitive powerlifter. That's great, it's a lot of hard work and effort, and the competitive powerlifting community is a wonderful one, everyone supports each-other.

I think that was something missing from the article: the camaraderie of competition. Most people in gyms work out on their own, and if you get a bigger lift than someone else, they envy you or even put you down or mumble something about "deadlifts are bad for your back, I used to lift heavy like you but..."

In a competition, most of those there support each-other. You come into your last deadlift attempt with a 10kg jump, and the guy whose total you're trying to beat by 5kg will be the guy who cheers you on the loudest. The top guy in the competition will offer advice to some of the bottom guys.

Not only that, but all the officials at the meet are current or former lifters. Who do you think does the spotting and loading? At an elite meet, the amateur lifters will show up to spot and load, at any amateur the elite lifters show up. At a meet where people are getting 1,000 totals you'll get 2,000 total guys loading your bar. Is there any other sport where that happens?

The reason to compete is not so that you can put a capital P in front of "powerlifter." It's the camaraderie, the community. It makes you a better lifter, and a better person.
Off topic, but I love that Pavel Tsatsouline quote in your signature. hahaha
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