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Old 06-05-2012, 05:45 PM   #11
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Old 06-05-2012, 05:49 PM   #12
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I certainly don't mean to be a killjoy, but I never do overhead presses. It just puts to much strain on my shoulders. That being said, do whatever works.

Make's me think, is the shoulder press loss a cause or an effect of the stagnated benchpress? I guess only way to find out is to start the OH again and see if the bench goes up with the OH.
Not being a killjoy. Think it comes down to the fact that I have different weaknesses than you. My triceps and are back strong, but I am chest and shoulder weak.

In the past my bench always went up as long as my OHPs were going up. I gave up OHPs last Fall in an attempt to streamline, as I was beginning to think they may not be needed.

Again, this post really wasn't about OHPs, but about analyzing my log for changes being made. I missed the important point that my bench started dive right at the point in which I gave up all OHPs. This may not be the cause, but logically it makes sense to add in some shoulder strengthening work to test this.
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:14 PM   #13
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Just going to throw this out there, but could doing slingshot alone have caused some lack of strength in the stabilising muscles or overall shoulder strength? It's something to consider, using the slingshot for the topmost end of the heavy sessions but doing the rest of the session minus the slingshot.
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:22 PM   #14
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Just going to throw this out there, but could doing slingshot alone have caused some lack of strength in the stabilising muscles or overall shoulder strength? It's something to consider, using the slingshot for the topmost end of the heavy sessions but doing the rest of the session minus the slingshot.
Reasonable point.

I can't bench heavy without the Slingshot, but it very well have contributed to weaknesses or instability. When I bench above 60% without a Slingshot I deal with substantial lingering strains that make any form of heavy training, even with a Slingshot, nearly impossible.

So it could certainly be the case, but it's not something I can really test.

Each time I bench raw I need 2 months of recovery time before I feel 100%.
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Old 06-06-2012, 12:07 PM   #15
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Reasonable point.

I can't bench heavy without the Slingshot, but it very well have contributed to weaknesses or instability. When I bench above 60% without a Slingshot I deal with substantial lingering strains that make any form of heavy training, even with a Slingshot, nearly impossible.

So it could certainly be the case, but it's not something I can really test.

Each time I bench raw I need 2 months of recovery time before I feel 100%.
Ever try reverse gripping?
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Old 06-08-2012, 03:37 PM   #17
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Actually the big weight you DB row with, should carryover into a reverse grip quite nicely.
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Yes, correct. Slowly creeping down.
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