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Old 01-12-2012, 06:22 PM   #11
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I've been looking around I think it is the exact samething, but I think the "correct" is intermittent. Only reason I put intermediate is because I saw someone on a different forum do that.
Yes, I think you're right.

I had just never heard it referred to as 'intermediate' since I've mostly read Martin Berkhan's stuff, but after a quick google search it seems people are using 'intermediate' as well.

I wonder why 'intermediate' though. I can understand 'intermittent' as by definition that is a good way to describe the eating patterns. I can't relate 'intermediate' to this though.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:28 PM   #12
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Yes, I think you're right.

I had just never heard it referred to as 'intermediate' since I've mostly read Martin Berkhan's stuff, but after a quick google search it seems people are using 'intermediate' as well.

I wonder why 'intermediate' though. I can understand 'intermittent' as by definition that is a good way to describe the eating patterns. I can't relate 'intermediate' to this though.
I don't really know either... maybe because some people choose to do the feeding part in the middle/intermediate part of the day?

I also noticed that on one forum they all call it intermediate and on another forum they all call it intermittent.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:30 PM   #13
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Maybe because it's in the "middle" of eating and fasting. You are still getting your full quota of food, but you have long periods of not eating.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:45 PM   #14
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Maybe because it's in the "middle" of eating and fasting. You are still getting your full quota of food, but you have long periods of not eating.
That sounds a lot better then my explantion.

Also another question, while I was looking at a lot of the sample diets most of the people who eat a little bit during the underfeeding to spare muscles loss only drink protein drinks and BCAAs. This question may sound stupid, but are you only suppose to drink the 300-400 during the fast or is a little solid food ok? or I have also read as long as you don't have carbs during the fast its ok.
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How many shakes do you do during the fast? Also with the adjust did you notice any strength loss at first?
I've started off with three 60g pure protein shakes a day, then a large, healthy, protein heavy meal (some times a second helping of whatever the meal was an hour after the first, basically ensuring the eating falls within as small a time window as possible.) I've added in a pre-bed protein shake as I'm aiming for at least 250g of protein a day.

To be honest I've just start eating like this since Monday, so not long enough to assess things. I can say that I've had buckets of energy this week and have been able to work and train hard. I feel good in the gym and have trained quite intensively with no noticeable feelings of tiredness or loss of strength. Also, consuming a limited amount of calories during my day seems to make me feel more alert, once initial hunger subsides.
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I've started off with three 60g pure protein shakes a day, then a large, healthy, protein heavy meal (some times a second helping of whatever the meal was an hour after the first, basically ensuring the eating falls within as small a time window as possible.) I've added in a pre-bed protein shake as I'm aiming for at least 250g of protein a day.

To be honest I've just start eating like this since Monday, so not long enough to assess things. I can say that I've had buckets of energy this week and have been able to work and train hard. I feel good in the gym and have trained quite intensively with no noticeable feelings of tiredness or loss of strength. Also, consuming a limited amount of calories during my day seems to make me feel more alert, once initial hunger subsides.
Thanks for input!

I might give it a try, but still not 100% how I'm going to set it up. I'm thinking about only 60grams of protein because thats about 320 calories with the protein I use. After seeing how much you and BtB use though thinking of cutting calories out of my regular diet and add another 1 or 2 servings.
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I've found a very good e-book on the subject of setting it up. PM me if you want details.

I'm consuming around 300 calories per 'meal' during the day. I might consider lowering this slightly and bulking up the evening meal with a larger pre-bed shake in order to ensure I'm getting the fasted benefits during daytime.
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I've found a very good e-book on the subject of setting it up. PM me if you want details.

I'm consuming around 300 calories per 'meal' during the day. I might consider lowering this slightly and bulking up the evening meal with a larger pre-bed shake in order to ensure I'm getting the fasted benefits during daytime.
Will have to check the ebook out.
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I'm going to bump this thread up a little, and ask for updates from Mab and Beast and anyone else who is combining this kind of eating pattern with heavy lifting. I'm interested in perhaps giving it a shot myself.

Cheers guys.
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the only thing i do fasted is cardio when cutting and i drink bcaas while i do my cardio. i like my muscle where it is thanks.
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