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Old 12-05-2011, 01:44 PM   #11
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MHO, everyone should count calories for at least 2 weeks. It doesn't have to be goal oriented or anything like that - just count. Counting calories really opens your eyes to a new perspective on food, and I believe it often times helps people make smarter food decisions. When you really know what you're taking in, it has potential to slap you in the face with a harsh realization that you need to make a change.
Good point. I agree completely. For a new lifter, not counting, even for a while, is a set-up for a high likelihood of failure.
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Old 12-05-2011, 02:17 PM   #12
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I actually enjoyed counting calories at first.
Lol, I didn't... I was a train wreck. It was early in my learning curve and I was paranoid about everything, and it stressed me out so much. Like if I decided to have a treat and eat a cookie, I would read into the label too much and be like "this cookie has more chocolate chips, so its going to be wrong" and it would discourage me. Or if it 1 cookie was bigger than the other, I knew it had more calories and I'd stress out over stupid shit like that.

Now I'm just a fat ass....
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Old 12-05-2011, 02:24 PM   #13
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Lol, I didn't... I was a train wreck. It was early in my learning curve and I was paranoid about everything, and it stressed me out so much. Like if I decided to have a treat and eat a cookie, I would read into the label too much and be like "this cookie has more chocolate chips, so its going to be wrong" and it would discourage me. Or if it 1 cookie was bigger than the other, I knew it had more calories and I'd stress out over stupid shit like that.

Now I'm just a fat ass....
Oh yeah, I can see that happening if you do it early on. I had already lost a ton of weight before I ever counted calories, so I already knew not to sweat the small stuff. If anything, I cheated more while counting because I could make up for it later if I wanted to.
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Old 12-05-2011, 02:27 PM   #14
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You should at least count them long enough to get a rough idea of your maintenance levels. Otherwise it's just guessing when you try to gain or lose.
I agree with this one, getting an idea of your basic intake can show if you're not eating enough or if you're eating way too much for your goals; having some idea of what intake is being consumed allows you to tweak things.

My rule, in addition to that one, is if my body is telling me it's hungry, then it needs more food...seems to have worked so far, even when it insists on food at 11pm at night after having eaten plenty throughout the day; but you have to understand/know the difference between the body wanting more food and you wanting more food.

When training really hard, the body may use a lot more calories than you think it needs...hence the "FEED ME!" signals it gives, and as long as bodyweight/composition is still on track, you're getting the right signals.
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The older I get the more I need regulation. I don't count calories per se, but I do understand calorie content of everything I eat because I took time to learn what I was putting into my body. This created habits that assisted my success.

I know that when I am cutting I need to limit my meals to a plateful. I don't care what's on the plate. It's more important to limit intake volume. Obviously heaping platefuls don't work either, but you get the point.
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The older I get the more I need regulation. I don't count calories per se, but I do understand calorie content of everything I eat because I took time to learn what I was putting into my body. This created habits that assisted my success.

I know that when I am cutting I need to limit my meals to a plateful. I don't care what's on the plate. It's more important to limit intake volume. Obviously heaping platefuls don't work either, but you get the point.

Yep. I can fix very healthy food, but if I'm planning on losing weight, I have to put my plate in the sink as soon as I get up from the table. Other wise its too easy to end up back at the table with another plate of pork roast and greens.
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If you're reaching your goals, don't worry about it. When you need to change things you'll probably need to at least keep a count for a little while. Some people will naturally eat more or less, which will work great for either cutting or bulking, but when that person needs to do that other they probably won't have as much luck.

If I eat what I want then I better be bulking. I can't cut without keeping serious track of what's going in my mouth.
Good advice. Thanks. I am reaching goals so I do not even think twice about what I am eating and counting.
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Old 12-13-2011, 03:28 PM   #18
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I do count calories but then again I have even before I started lifting. Just force of habit.
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