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Old 03-19-2011, 11:36 PM   #1
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So lately I've been on the prowl for supplements.
I'm looking into pre workout supplements and I've been cycling E/C stack for a while, but with my current schedule I'm not going to be able to do that anymore.

Mainly, I've been looking for a new pre workout sup and been constantly looking at the M&S deal of the day. Sorely upset that I missed my chance and the Universal Animal Rage.

However, if anyone else knows where I can find a good pre workout sup for a fair/cheap price, please let me know. I am a college student who's supporting himself on a budget.

I'm looking at K-Otic, but not sure what it's like. I'm going to call in for a free sample, but sooner the better.

Has anyone ever tried making their own?

If anyone also has information for fish oil and multivitamin I'd be entirely grateful.

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Old 03-20-2011, 12:59 AM   #2
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I was very pleased with K-Otic, the taste was its only downfall but if your in it for taste then drink a milkshake lol. Anyways I heard they are releasing new flavors, should be great. I liked it, it was consistent & I definitely notice a difference lifting with out it.
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K-otic has about 300mg of caffine, it seems pretty cool and i wanted to try it to but i know a lot of guys logged it here and i dont want a sales pitch. I like the amped cracked out feeling except for 1 mr...the crash is to much. Pre surge unleashed looks pretty good and so does quake 10.0 looks hella strong
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I was very pleased with K-Otic, the taste was its only downfall but if your in it for taste then drink a milkshake lol. Anyways I heard they are releasing new flavors, should be great. I liked it, it was consistent & I definitely notice a difference lifting with out it.
I love the K-Otic and when you brake down the servings, the ingredients and the price per serving, you can't beet it. They brought out 2 new flavors - Grape and Orange, they also improved the original flavor.
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Old 03-20-2011, 06:26 AM   #5
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So lately I've been on the prowl for supplements.
I'm looking into pre workout supplements and I've been cycling E/C stack for a while, but with my current schedule I'm not going to be able to do that anymore.

Mainly, I've been looking for a new pre workout sup and been constantly looking at the M&S deal of the day. Sorely upset that I missed my chance and the Universal Animal Rage.

However, if anyone else knows where I can find a good pre workout sup for a fair/cheap price, please let me know. I am a college student who's supporting himself on a budget.

I'm looking at K-Otic, but not sure what it's like. I'm going to call in for a free sample, but sooner the better.

Has anyone ever tried making their own?

If anyone also has information for fish oil and multivitamin I'd be entirely grateful.

Thank you,
FMS.
You should be able to find fish oil and multi locally. My only hint for fish oil is to buy the enteric coated capsules. It keeps the fish burps to a minimum ( I only get them if I take it on an empty stomach).

I have made my own pre. Bought bulk BCAA, Glutamine, L-Arginine, Beta-Alanine and Creatine and then some kind of kool-aide like flavor packets. Arginine has a strong fishy taste, so I now use the tablets, but powder everything else. A tsp is about 5g. So, 2 tsp of BCAA, 1 tsp each of the others, one flavor packet. If you want caffeine, find a powdered energy drink like Deton8 (sold at Kroger). Upfront cost is more than buying K-Otic or Jack3d, but the cost per serving is better overall. I compared my mix to jack3d and the upfront cost per serving was close, but I got 150 servings to Jack's 30.

That said, a pre-made is soooo much easier. The question, that is still in debate, is are they necessary? I have tried numerous and can take or leave them. Love the focus I have with K-Otic, hate the taste. Jack3d made me jittery. Superpump sent me to the head within minutes. Waiting for my Beta-Cret to arrive so that I can give it a try. I would advise trying to pick up some samples and give them a try. Everyone is different.
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Supps I use

Daily: multi vitamin, fish oil, protein powder.

pre workout: Coffee

post workout: chocolate milk with protein

I like to keep it simple. YMMV
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Does anyone know anything about presurge?
Didn't work for me, and many I know didn't like it.
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Does anyone know anything about presurge?
I was using Pre-Surge Unleashed for a while. Good stuff, strong as hell for me. I used 3/4 scoop on an empty stomach, and I was cooking withing 30 minutes. Loads of energy, but it also made me sweat, a lot.

But now I have Rage. Animal Rage. This stuff is awesome, plain and simple. Taste isn't good at all, but it's made to be a 4oz shot..just slam it back and wash it down with something else if you want to..
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Does anyone know anything about presurge?
I did a log on presurge on M & S. I actually liked alot. Very good taste and very good energy but it doesnt give you that cracked out feeling your looking for. Overall though it is a pretty decent pwo.
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