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Old 06-17-2014, 12:24 PM   #1
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Guys what do you think about Diet Soda like Coke Zero,Coke Light,Pepsi Max etc zero calorie soft drinks? Okey its really bad for poor dental health but Do you think there are effects on weight gain(bulk) or bad effect for losing fat(cut) ?
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I have no scientific evidence here - but my office has a fridge full of soft drinks for employees. I used to drink a pile of coke zero because, "hey, 0 calories!". I found that while drinking it regularly (on average 1 can a day) I was able to gain weight easily but not drop any. when I cut it out of my diet i was able to drop weight without trying nearly as hard. No idea on the scientific process here - just my experience.
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I say stay away from them as much as possible. I can't imagine the odd one here and there causing harm, but far too often people kinda get hooked on diet soda's, like my brother. He drinks at least 6-10 cans per day.

Common sense tells me that anything man made that we put in our bodies is not good. Man has screwed up wheat, corn, and soy (GMO'd to death), so what makes anyone think artificial sweeteners would be OK?

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Common sense tells me that anything man made that we put in our bodies is not good. Man has screwed up wheat, corn, and soy (GMO'd to death), so what makes anyone think artificial sweeteners would be OK?
It's true. When it comes to playing God us humans are terrible at it.
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I've had the opposite experience with diet soda. I love my diet soda and when I'm cutting you better believe there will be a bunch of 2 liters in my cart at the grocery store every week. My most successful cut was done with intermittent fasting, and during the day at work I would live off of diet soda. I think diet soda gets a bad rap because it can indirectly effect your ability to control your intake. Diet soda doesn't replace water, and it doesn't give you an excuse to eat more because it has no calories. To me diet soda is a tool that I use while dieting to make life more bearable and make it easier to hold out until my next scheduled meal.
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I say stay away from them as much as possible. I can't imagine the odd one here and there causing harm, but far too often people kinda get hooked on diet soda's, like my brother. He drinks at least 6-10 cans per day.

Common sense tells me that anything man made that we put in our bodies is not good. Man has screwed up wheat, corn, and soy (GMO'd to death), so what makes anyone think artificial sweeteners would be OK?

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I've had the opposite experience with diet soda. I love my diet soda and when I'm cutting you better believe there will be a bunch of 2 liters in my cart at the grocery store every week. My most successful cut was done with intermittent fasting, and during the day at work I would live off of diet soda. I think diet soda gets a bad rap because it can indirectly effect your ability to control your intake. Diet soda doesn't replace water, and it doesn't give you an excuse to eat more because it has no calories. To me diet soda is a tool that I use while dieting to make life more bearable and make it easier to hold out until my next scheduled meal.
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I'll take my tap water filtered with my aqua sauna over a diet soda any day.
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Agree about the diet coke but I would argue with this part of your post.

Common sense is really just what seems reasonable based on the opinions that are around at the time we happen to be born. For our grandparents, it was common sense that colds were caused by being cold. And that going out in the sun as much as possible was healthy. So common sense isn't necessarily a good guide to what goes on in our bodies.

As far as I know, GMO wheat isn't grown on a large scale in the US. In any case, good luck in finding one single food that hasn't been modified (and mostly improved) by humans over 10,000+ years of animal husbandry and cultivation. Unless shooting and eating elk, possibly.

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Based on what? How about penicillin, vaccinations, artificial joints, organ transplants, dentistry, anti-inflammatories, painkillers, contraceptives, anaesthetics...

Each of these is 'playing God' - interfering with what is 'natural' - and each of these even on its own has alleviated human suffering to an incalculable degree.

Natural does not equal good.
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I was obsessed with diet soda up until 4 days ago when i cut it out dry turkey. It did a great job at keeping me full. The one problem I had was it was effecting my teeth. As it goes for losing and gaining fat i have no idea. Water is probably going to be better in the long run for you anyway.
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Tann - GMO is likely the wrong term to use for what I meant. I have always thought of it that way, but technically it is the wrong term.

The right term to use to convey what I meant, is that man has wrecked & screwed up wheat and other grains. This article does a good job at conveying what I meant:

http://www.grainstorm.com/pages/rant

In fact, my Gastro Doc told me that I likely would have been able to tolerate wheat back in the 50's and earlier.

As far as common sense goes, again, maybe semantics, but I do think most people would think that when they hear the term "artificial" especially when it comes to food, they would think in today's world it is not good for them
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