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trustyguy 03-15-2014 06:09 AM

Cutting Stack
 
Summer is right around the corner, and the last few scoops of Serious Mass are being polished off.
Bulking season has been a success and soon enough, getting lean will be the new goal.

I need some advice on supplementation whilst cutting.

On top of my usual stack of whey, oats & creatine, for cutting, I have added:
- Fish oils
- Multivitamin
- BCAAs
- CLA

I'm considering adding ZMA or Carnitine to the equation, but taking 12-15 pills a day seems excessive.

Am I spending too much on supplements when I really need to just keep it simple?

As always, any advice is greatly appreciated.

fenrisulfr 03-15-2014 08:38 AM

You haven't mentioned diet besides whey and oats. That is over 95% of the equation.

JumpmanRugs 03-15-2014 12:13 PM

Best cutting stack?

Food.

You are spending way too much on supplements. Fish Oil, Vitamin D3! Especially since i notice you are in the UK, supplements are expensive here thanks to the lovely government and their Tax for being healthy (seperate rant)!

Anyway, FFish Oil, Vit D3, & BCAA (If you can afford them consistently). Whey is good if you have the money. Creatine is cheap as heck so add that in, no need to cycle or any of that crap. Branch Chains aren't needed unless you are training like mad (I'm talking 2 a days every day) and even then food is everything. CLA & ZMA aren't needed. Just eat less and sleep a bit more, while eating good nutritious food. Eat your vegetables, and consume healthy fats. Too many people cut on too low fat, that shit isn't good!

Hope this helps buddy, keep training hard!

Soldier 03-15-2014 12:18 PM

Fish oil, multi, and bcaa's are all good for cutting.

But the only one that will really make a difference is BCAA's. They do a great job of helping you maintain muscle while cutting. The rest I could take or leave.

Keep your protein up and keep your training heavy.

jdmalm123 03-15-2014 08:25 PM

I can drop 5-10 lbs in 2-4 weeks if I stop taking creatine.

By it's nature, you will hold water while using it.

JumpmanRugs 03-16-2014 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmalm123 (Post 464390)
I can drop 5-10 lbs in 2-4 weeks if I stop taking creatine.

By it's nature, you will hold water while using it.

Read something recently saying this is false? Guess it depends on the person! I don't gain much weight on the creatine!

afraziaaaa 03-16-2014 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trustyguy (Post 464212)

Am I spending too much on supplements when I really need to just keep it simple?

Yes. It's all about your diet. Take supplements if you are not getting the nutrients from food. If you are eating the right foods, then there's very little need for supplements.

trustyguy 03-16-2014 04:01 AM

I appreciate that it's all about diet, but I do think some supplementation is beneficial, hence the question.
I'm going to continue my usual diet, minus the carbs so that I'm around 600 calories below maintenance level, then bring in 4 cardio sessions a week on top of my weights routine

JumpmanRugs 03-16-2014 05:21 AM

Yes they are, but why are they called supplements? Because they supplement your diet! Get as much as you can from foods and then if you feel like you need supplemebts by all means do so. Minus carbs completely with 600 calories under, I would start off with 200-300 less and see how that goes, then take more if need be.

Good luck!

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