|01-05-2014, 06:31 PM||#1|
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Help with structuring 3000 calorie diet.
I'm looking some help structuring my diet.
Iv'e had some awsome pointers from the shoutbox, and a great PM from Steve in regards to this.
Steve is too busy to help me actually structure it, so was wondering if I could throw it up on here incase anyone had a spare few minuets?
This is the broken, half diet that me and some of you on the shoutbox have picked to pices.
It doesn't have enough protein, the carbs are screwed, macronutrients aren't there as they should be,
But, you have to start somewhere when your making a diet from scratch, so its a start.
Here's the broken diet:
*PLEASE READ BELOW THE DIET FOR THE IMPORTANT PARTS.
Didn't want you to miss something and then be annoyed and think I hadn't been listening.
.6 EGG WHITES
.2 WHOLE EGGS
.1 TBSP OF SUNFLOWER OIL
.CUP OF VEG
.2 SLICES WHOLE WHEAT BREAD
.3 TBSP PEANUT BUTTER
.2 CUPS OF WHOLE WHEAT PASTA
.3 QUARTERS OF A 500G JAR OF TOMATO SAUCE.
.CUP OF VEG
.1 TBSP SUNFLOWER OIL
. 3 PIECES OF FISH (COD)
SAME AS MEAL 2
.2 SLICES OF BREAD
.3 TBSP OF PEANUT BUTTER
2 PICES OF FISH (COD)
BOWL OF BROCCOLI.
Some of the things we discussed both in the shoutbox, and via PM with Steve about this diet:
.Bread isn't a great source of carbs because it's heavily processt.
.Micro managing the macronutrients and such is going to be a hinderance in all honesty.
.Variety is important.
As you can see, the diet isn't right at all, and that's what I'm looking to you guys for help with.
Its basically an unfinished, half diet with all the macros screwed up.
It was one I thought was right but when we picked it apart, I took stuff out that was wrong, and it ended up still being wrong.
I was also told by several of you guys to put butter on anything I can. That'll get my fat macro up.
Also, it looks like I should look for a different carb other than bread. I can keep the peanut butter, but maybe it's better I give the bread a miss.
In a nut shell it looks like I'll be needing some new and more carbs choices, more protein, and more fat. AND for everything to add up to around 3K calories in the end.
I need a 3000 calorie diet.
225 grams of protein
35% of the 3000 cals to come from fats
and then the rest carbs.
With help from the shotbox, I looked at the information afterwards, and reaslised what I need based on those marcronutrient recomendations, are a third of each marcro.
So roughly 1000 calories for fat, protein, and carbs.
Seems simple enoguh, right?
Yes and no.
Basically, there are a few things I simply can't eat, that become a hinderance when trying to structure this.
1.) I can't eat any dairy apart from butter from grass fed cows.
I had an acne problem.
The acne went away when I stopped having milk, cheese, and all other dairy products apart from butter.
The reason for this is because of the IGF-1 Hormone, which is very high in dairy.
HGF-1 basically causes your hormones to be futher un-balances than they already are in the teenaged years.
I won't go into the reasons as to why un-balanced hromones cause acne, but thats basically the reason most teenageers get acne.
And IGF-1 has been known for a while now to be just about the worst thing, sugar coming in at second place, for hormonal acne.
And that was the case for me.
+ This means no whey, which is a huge bummer because whey protein would've been a really big help to get my 225 grams in
2.) I can't eat any sugar.
Sugar also does the same thing as the dairy, in a slightly differnt way, meaning I can't eat that either.
as far as protein goes, there isn't enough variety in there, as has been pointed out to me frequently.
Now as I said in the PM, I've actually found a way to make the fish taste really good, and I've stocked up on chicken also.
To tell you the truth, I'm just not keen on meat in general.
Chicken and fish are ok, and along with the protein in the carb and fat foods, I should be alright.
What I'm really looking for is a way to add to this broken diet.
Like I said, I'm looking for 225 grams of protein, 116 grams of fat, and the carbs will be the rest.
Now in terms of the macros, I really don't need to be so obsessive, as I've been told.
But I ant to get it roughly right so I need to stick to those guidelines, but it doesn't have to be absolutely perfect.
that I'd never ask you to sit here and plan out my diet, didn't want you to think I was lazy and wanted it all done for me.
I'm just confused with it that's all, and you guys know what your talking about.
I've tried my best with it but as you can see, when you pick apart the diets I've created, they're just not right.
If anyone can help, I'd really appreciate it.
PS: If there is anyone that could offer help, if you need a full breakdown of what macros and calories are in each of those foods I posted in that half a diet above, let me know and I'll write all that up.
Last edited by LindenGarcia18; 01-05-2014 at 06:57 PM.
|01-05-2014, 07:06 PM||#2|
Join Date: May 2012
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how much protein is in each piece of fish ? do u like pork or beef or even both ?
could add a protein shake to each snack time.
|01-05-2014, 07:25 PM||#3|
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If you are having trouble finding enough protein sources why do you want to eat such high protein? 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight is actually already a high recommendation, why go even higher?
'It's all them fat powerlifting molecules and no muscle' -Steve Shaw
|01-05-2014, 07:30 PM||#4|
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I spend all night scared of tomorrow, only reason I aint killin, suns up, when it gets dark im back to the park, cut through the back im after the heart, creepin through your hallway with a knife, had it all planned, therapist callin me all day, I know you love it when I eat meat, I love it when the brains hit the concrete!
|01-05-2014, 09:59 PM||#5|
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For carb sources just add rice. Very easy to eat depending on how you cook it. And for protein you shouldn't have to use a supplement to reach 225. Egg whites and lean meat all day long is very easy to do
Go squat. Then eat a steak. -bruteforce
|01-05-2014, 11:12 PM||#6|
Join Date: Dec 2013
I eat 3200-3500 cals a day, sometimes more, i just eat more eggs.
At breakfast for example i eat:
4 egg omlette with 50-100 grs of ham
And a shake with:
Whole fat milk
And a piece of cocoa (85%+)
Not sure how many calories alone are in my breakfast, but i'm guessing a lot :P
|01-05-2014, 11:46 PM||#7|
Join Date: Nov 2013
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Here is a sample breakfast that gets right about 600 cals, 1/5 of your goal:
I took my own breakfast from myfitnesspal.com and adjusted based on the no dairy and other restrictions. the myfitnesspal app computes the cals, carbs, fat, and protein for you.
Oatmeal 2/3 cup (dry measure before cooking)
Soy milk 1/2 cup
7 egg whites & 2 whole eggs
Veggies (say onion, peppers, spinach, thing good in eggs)
1/2 tbsp olive oil
Fairly close to 200 cals each from protein, carb and fat.
You could play with the other meals in a similar way using the app. They already seem pretty good except 2 & 4 are missing protein.
|01-06-2014, 10:27 AM||#8|
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This is my opinion. You know what causes you problems, avoid those items. Focus on your protein. Plan that all out first and foremost. Then look at fats. Olive oil, Avocado Oil, Nut Oils (nuts themselves) will help with fats. If you have calories left then consider carbs. To be honest, I have found that if I make sure my main meals are rich in protein and green veggies and I have some protein with anything else I eat, the rest tends to work itself out. 3000 calories is probably more than you are used to eating. As an OCD, you are going to drive yourself crazy trying to micromanage your macros. Personally, I advocate simple eating. If you can grow it or kill it, you can eat it. If you have to open a box and add stuff to it, stay away from it. Simple.
David, Husband, Father, Pastor
(Yasen Miroslav Zavadil)
Meet Maxes: Gym Maxes:
Squat 308 315
Bench 176 185 This WILL change!
Deadlift 408 375
Shooting for a 1000+ total for next meet, spring/summer 2015. (see quote below)
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|01-06-2014, 11:22 AM||#9|
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Beef, chicken, bacon, sweet potatoes, rice, normal potatoes all good !
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|01-06-2014, 11:48 AM||#10|
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for Carbs try some sweet potato, can be prepared in many ways.
mix various rice & various beans, then season with salsa.
this is a good source of cabs, and what I consider bonus protein, mixing the beans & rice makes up a complete protein, and will be a nice add on to meat, I never count on this as my main protein source, but its nice to round it off
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