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LindenGarcia18 05-02-2013 03:26 PM

Ditch the whey?
 
Just finished my last scoop of whey protein powder yesterday.

I don't really have allot of money, so buying a new 40 tub would be a pretty big set back.

Was wondering if I really need it, and if I can ditch it and just have an extra meal post workout instead.

I know there's the whole deal with the anabolic window, that suggests that because whey doesn't have to be digested, it goes straight to your muscles to repair them more efficiently as opposed to food that takes longer.

Sounds like BS to me but I just thought I'd make sure before I make the decision.

Ditch it or buy a new tub?

Off Road 05-02-2013 03:30 PM

First things first, before we tackle nutrition yet again. . .

What have you learn about progression schemes and how to implement them?

big_swede 05-02-2013 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LindenGarcia18 (Post 358223)
Just finished my last scoop of whey protein powder yesterday.

I don't really have allot of money, so buying a new 40 tub would be a pretty big set back.

Was wondering if I really need it, and if I can ditch it and just have an extra meal post workout instead.

I know there's the whole deal with the anabolic window, that suggests that because whey doesn't have to be digested, it goes straight to your muscles to repair them more efficiently as opposed to food that takes longer.

Sounds like BS to me but I just thought I'd make sure before I make the decision.

Ditch it or buy a new tub?

At your current level a pint of milk and some buns or cookies will do you more good than supplements post workout. I often drink a litre of chocomilk instead of supplements post training and It works as good as anything you buy at GNC =)

DITCH!

Squatter 05-02-2013 04:20 PM

I don't think there is much substance to the so called anabolic window. I wouldn't worry about that. Hard boiled eggs are a good cheap source of protein.

Swede had a good suggestion about the chocolate milk post w/o as it has all the nutrients you need in the right ratios.

PhillyDev 05-02-2013 04:32 PM

Egg whites and chocolate milk in the blender. I've done it for many years.

LindenGarcia18 05-02-2013 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Off Road (Post 358225)
First things first, before we tackle nutrition yet again. . .

What have you learn about progression schemes and how to implement them?

I know now how to implement them, its just doing so thats the problem.
I keep messing it up, and feel like I have been doing so for the fast 2 months when I think about out it.

BtB hasn't got back to me yet, so I'm still waiting to see what he says, but even though I get expert advice all the time I'm not very good at implementing it.
The whole thing just seems so messy and bitty, I don't know where to start.

Off Road 05-02-2013 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LindenGarcia18 (Post 358261)
I know now how to implement them.

So, explain it to me then. . .

I hate the thought of you glossing over something so important as progression schemes and filling your mind with something so trivial as the optimal post-workout nutritional window.

SCStrong 05-02-2013 05:22 PM

You do not need the powder. It is convenient to have if you can afford it but milk, egss, meat, peanut butter, will all work for you. What you need to focus on right now is pick up the weight put down the weight----- pick up the food, eat the food.
As for the anabolic window...... that's the drve thru at this point. :)

LindenGarcia18 05-02-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Off Road (Post 358276)
So, explain it to me then. . .

I hate the thought of you glossing over something so important and filling your mind with something so trivial as the optimal post-workout nutritional window.



Right,well.

I'm going to stick with the same progression scheme of 2.5 kg every time I do the lift, because that seems to have worked well for the past month or 2 I've been training.
I lost track somewhat of where I was in terms of weight on the bar, so I'm going to go through every lift tomorrow, and reestablish where I'm at on each exercise.

What might, and very likely will prove difficult though, is finding the happy medium between a weight thats too light or too heavy.

For example with barbell rows, I could pick a weight that allows me to hit 5 reps, but I'm not going to be able to go right up to my chest, and probably will only be able to go half the way up.

I don't know if thats right, or weather I should revert back to using a lighter weight, where I can get that full range of motion.

Though If I do that I'll feel as though I'm taking a step backward.

You said yourself that if I'm not getting stronger, progressing, and building muscle, then all that food I'm eating is going to have the opposite effect, and make me fat rather than muscle bound, and surely if I'm going back a step and start building my way back up to the weight I was using before, which may take over a month, I'm wasting my opportunities to grow, because I won't be getting stronger.

I don't know weather worse form with heavier weight will get me better results, or weather going backwards somewhat on some of my lifts, so I have perfect form, even if the weights lighter.

Soldier 05-02-2013 07:56 PM

It seems to me like people are starting to look down on you for asking questions, and that's retarded.

Whey isn't magical. If you can get your protein from other sources then go for it, but if you find a good deal whey is actually one of the cheapest protein sources you can find. Protein is the most expensive of the macronutrients which is why people don't get enough these days. Meat is expensive as hell!


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