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BendtheBar 08-23-2012 03:37 PM

Layne Norton - Protein Myths
 

BendtheBar 08-23-2012 03:37 PM

Posting for discussion.

bruteforce 08-23-2012 04:39 PM

Agree. More meat.

Fazc 08-23-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bruteforce (Post 270728)
Agree. More meat.

Technically he is saying there is no harm in increased protein intake. Not that it is beneficial in itself. That's very much up for discussion.

(Tastes good though ;) )

SeventySeven 08-23-2012 10:09 PM

Layne is the man.

MikeC 08-23-2012 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fazc (Post 270735)
Technically he is saying there is no harm in increased protein intake. Not that it is beneficial in itself. That's very much up for discussion.

(Tastes good though ;) )

With that thought in mind, what the the possible pros and cons to eating fewer grams of protein?

Fazc 08-24-2012 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeC (Post 270804)
With that thought in mind, what the the possible pros and cons to eating fewer grams of protein?

Well there are some very controversial pro's to eating less protein per day, at least temporarily. However I'll say this right now, I'm not completely convinced of those reasons just yet. If you want more info check out Brad Pilon's Protein book.

What I was actually referring to was more along the lines of further questioning the value of eating more protein, (as opposed to the value of eating less, which is debatable). Most studies done looking at protein intake use protein synthesis to determine muscle gain. Increased protein synthesis is used as a marker for increased muscle growth. To actually test for increased muscle growth accurately is out of our reach on a micro level. However, and as Layne states, these are just markers. It's correlation and not necessarily causation. Protein synthesis happens all the time. Protein from various areas in the body are constantly being moved around the body and it is reasonable to assume it happens more in the period after training. This doesn't necessarily point to increased protein synthesis being a reliable indicator of increased muscle growth and neither for increased protein intakes to increase protein synthesis which in turn increases muscle growth. Unless a study specifically looks at increased muscle growth, and is done so with an accurate and reliable methodology, it is all just correlation and it is worth bearing that in mind.

Rich Knapp 08-24-2012 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SeventySeven (Post 270800)
Layne is the man.

I take advantage of his info as much as I can. Listening to a guy that has a PhD in the line of nutrition, plus is a power lifter and pro natty bodybuilder, he is driven to know as much as he can in the fields.

I would trust his knowledge base over any gym rat thats reading rage magazines any day.

He is one of my main "go to" people on BCAA info and much more.

Theres to much correlation in the industry and not causation.

Is it causation or just correlation because its something new and your trying harder? Is it the new found drive because its "new and interesting" or does it really work?

People put blinders on for so so many things. Its just human nature to want to. They will bend correlation around to become causation, just to make themselves feel better or be right.

Once you brake threw and look at "causation" you just took the next step to being a winner.

Rich Knapp 08-24-2012 08:49 AM

Something funny I just thought of.

People like to read and trust Doc. Franco Colombo from the old school days.

Layne is one bad @ss modern day Franco when it comes to the nutrition and how our body operates.

emekajokammor 08-24-2012 09:20 AM

I've become a friend of Layne thru a netural friend and I love this dude's passion for success. Not only for himself but for others as well. Everytime we talk he drops some very useful knowledge on me.


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