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Old 08-02-2012, 10:27 AM   #11
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We had someone quit the forum once because I said cheese was a clean food. So if I say cheese is a clean food, will you still love me?
People who have an issue with the fat in cheese can go live in fear elsewhere. The only legitimate anti-cheese arguments (to me) are

1. If you are allergic to milk proteins.
2. Are overly sensitive to yeast. Some fermented foods and cheeses can cause issues with Candida Albicans
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Old 08-02-2012, 10:30 AM   #12
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I will say that the cheese making process is stupid simple. It's basically milk, an activator and a brine bath. At least the cheeses we make up here.

No additives, preservatives or voo doo.
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I will quit if you say cheese is a dirty food !!
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I will quit if you say cheese is a dirty food !!
With maybe the exception of Cheese Wiz (which should be scarey based on the name alone), cheese is clean in my book. I also am not sold on the cheeseburger across the board being dirty. A Fast food CB, yes, my 1/2lber grilled in the backyard is heavenly.
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The only time I don't like cheese is when people wearing green shirts put on a cheese hat! LOL
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Come on, maybe this is a generational thing but are we that far gone as a society that we really need a definition of what is considered good food?
But the OP said 'clean' food, not good food - though the two are related in the way people use the word 'dirty.'

I've got sympathy with the OP, because I do think people use the definition in different ways and it shifts every few years.

For example, in the UK in the 1950s, good food meant pie and mash, meat and two veg, gravy etc.

In the 1980s, good/clean food meant low fat (and still does to many people). Breakfast cereals, yoghurt, orange juice were clean.

In the 1990s, good food meant organic or low glycaemic index, low saturated fat, low salt

In 2000 onwards.....? Emphasis - at least in this neck of the woods - is usually on 'natural'. Natural or unprocessed is clean, processed is dirty.

To me, the problem with using labels like clean and dirty is that it results in very black and white thinking. I definitely agree that many 'dirty' processed foods are horrible: high in sugars, salts, saturated fat, low in micro-nutirents and fibre. But just because something is natural doesn't necessarily mean it's good for you. That's a kind of Walt Disney view of nature, imo.

For example, using most the definitions above: honey = clean, soda = dirty. But if you switch from 3 cans of soda a day to the equivalent amount of honey, you are still going to face the same health risks from ingesting large amounts of sugar. The trace B vitamins aren't going to help .
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