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Old 12-15-2011, 10:25 AM   #1
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Does anyone know if this is true? Once you hit a certain age, you are no longer able to build muscle but just maintain what you have?
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Never looked into it, but based on the knowledge I currently have I would say that's a bunch of BS. However, the gains you do see can/will be reduced; possibly significantly, depending on the age we're talking.
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i'm no expert, but i would say increasing muscle mass becomes more difficult as you age due to decreasing testosterone levels.
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That's BS. You can gain strength and muscle at any age. The top end shrinks every year, in other words you have shrinking potential. If you are at the top of your game, you'll see a decrease as you get up in years. But just look at guys like Grimmek and Lalaine, they were super strong and fit and muscular into their twilight years.
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I would say not only is it true, bit there would also be a point at which you must lose muscle mass. This would be the case if a natural lifter completely reached his genetic potential. Remember, it's all based upon adaptation. The body won't keep extra muscle mass if it doesn't need to. As the body ages and the systems can't work as efficiently as before the body wouldn't be able to support the same levels of muscle mass. There will also be a point at whcih the body will inevitably not be able to continue to lift the same amount of weight, wether it be a systemic issue or injury of some sort. Without being able to lift to one's former level, the body won't need to keep so much muscle mass.

Understand that I am talking about a person who is elderly or very close to being so. As far age, it could be anywhere between 50-80, but I'd say that at some point it's inevitable.
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That's BS. You can gain strength and muscle at any age. The top end shrinks every year, in other words you have shrinking potential. If you are at the top of your game, you'll see a decrease as you get up in years. But just look at guys like Grimmek and Lalaine, they were super strong and fit and muscular into their twilight years.
That's what I'm talking about.

If someone were to START lifting while being older than they could certainly get stronger and build muscle, unless those systemic and injury issues I mentioned are already present.
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I agree Soldier, but what about a guy that's 60+ and just starting out. I think it's completely possible for that person to gain muscle mass and strength. Like I said, his cieling will be lower, but he will still make good progress. Have you kept up with Brooks Kubik's dad? He is old and making good progress.

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I know a powerlifter friend of mine who's just hit 50 and he continues to get stronger. He just hit a geared Bench PR of 160kg and he's going strong.

Sure the ceiling for gains is less, but who has really hit that ceiling?

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