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Old 11-17-2011, 08:45 AM   #11
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I'd say focus more on your overall foundation with compound movements (dips, squat, deadlift, etc), and in time you can learn how to train any "lagging parts."
Good advice. Keep things simple until you need to get more complicated.
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I like to do both. Bb is great for over all heavier weight and chain work, but Db's hit stabilizers more and you can put your hands in a natural position.
That one is huge. Whenever I see people doing dumbell bench press they always have their arms flared and the dumbells straight across like they are holding a barbell. This is not a natural position. Watch almost any bodybuilder do DB bench and the DB's are angled with the elbows tucked.

Also, part of the reason to use DB's is to get a fuller stretch at the bottom, but most people only bring the DB's down half way! First off, that's a tricep exercise and second off, we all know your weak already and struggling to bust out crappy half reps with a weight you can't handle doesn't make you look stronger, trust me.

I guess people expect too much of themselves with DB presses. I can legitimately press 285 with a BB and have done 205x15, but I struggle to get out just a couple reps with 100's.
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I guess people expect too much of themselves with DB presses. I can legitimately press 285 with a BB and have done 205x15, but I struggle to get out just a couple reps with 100's.
This is a really good point. I've been get stuck with the 80s for weeks now on flat bench. What I love about DBs is how, in many cases, you get more out of less weight.

For example, I do seated DB lateral raises with shoulders depressed. I've used 25 pounds on a few occasions but have mostly built my lateral delts with 15 and 20# DBs.
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This is a really good point. I've been get stuck with the 80s for weeks now on flat bench. What I love about DBs is how, in many cases, you get more out of less weight.

For example, I do seated DB lateral raises with shoulders depressed. I've used 25 pounds on a few occasions but have mostly built my lateral delts with 15 and 20# DBs.
One thing to think about is that on any lift, your ability to apply maximum force has in inverse relationship to how stabil the movement is. We have one of these at my gym;


I can press WAY more on this than I can on a regular bench press, because all I have to do is push as hard as I can.

Also, the effects of instability reveal themselves the closer you get to max weights. That's why I can rep out 12+ times with 85's, but I can only do a few reps with 95's.
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I am just starting but I am finding that barbells are easier for me to lift. Maybe because I only have to worry about lifting it as a whole and not worrying about lifting the dumbbells together.
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I am just starting but I am finding that barbells are easier for me to lift. Maybe because I only have to worry about lifting it as a whole and not worrying about lifting the dumbbells together.
That's normal. Like I mentioned, barbells are more stable then DB's and that makes them generally easier to lift.

Make sure to use both, but don't expect to lift as much with DB's as you do with barbells. Adjust your expectations according to what you're doing and don't be afraid to start with weights that allow you to use good form, no matter how small they might be.
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