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Old 11-14-2011, 06:00 PM   #1
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If the following will work for me. I Have been on the madcow program for awhile and I just don't like it. I do not like the progression (seems I spend to much time putting on and taking of plates)

My thinking is that this will speed up my work outs a little, and I get to do something every day, other than Sunday.

What I have come up with is the following. I want to do these 5 sets increasing reps and or weight when possible.

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Squat
Deadlift

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Bench
barbell row
OHP

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Squat
Romanian Deadlift

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Bench
barbell row
OHP

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Squat
Deadlift

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Bench
barbell row
OHP

Am i going to kill my self? Is this to much?
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Old 11-14-2011, 07:55 PM   #2
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Nope. It's not too much.
Back in the days when I used to train like a powerlifter, I used to train using a Sheiko template...
That was hell of a volume there.
So don't worry. Keep your calories high and get plenty of sleep and you will definitely see some improvements.
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That's a hell of a lot of lifting.

Do it! Hit it hard then do a deload after a few weeks and see how you react.
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Personally, I believe that jumping from a 3 day program into a 6 day one is too much. Experience on 4 day and 5 days would be preferable. I am just finishing with Madcow and am progressing to a 4 day split. While I would love to hit a 6 day split, I don't think my body would cope for long periods of time. If you persevere with a 6 day week, you'll need to deload frequently like Soldier said or else you will burn out very quickly indeed.

Madcow progression is actually reasonable for an intermediate. Once you get to a certain stage, adding huge amounts to a lift in 8 weeks is unrealistic (In Madcow, you could theorectically add 40 pounds in that time.)

Just make sure you're seeking such a brutal training schedule for the right reasons, not because you want to speed up what is already solid progression and think that so many sessions a week will help. It may actually have the opposite effect.

There are many knowledgeable people on these boards so they will give you more detailed answers but that's my 2 cents.
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I want to do these 5 sets increasing reps and or weight when possible.
If you're planning on training heavy each day then I would say it's too much. I am not a big backer of dramatic leaps forward in programming, meaning I would rather see you do an upper/lower first.

I think a 4 day would serve you well, and that you would build a lot of strength.

You are still adding strength fairly rapidly right now. Find a progression approach you like and maybe plug it into a 4 day per week program.
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Okay, I've gotten to yea's and two nay's. so how about the following.

Stick with madcow, only break up the routine like so.

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Squat
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Bench
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Deadlift
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OHP

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Okay, I've gotten to yea's and two nay's. so how about the following.

Stick with madcow, only break up the routine like so.

Mon
Squat
+ assistance

Tue
Bench
Row

Wed
Squat
Deadlift
+ Assistance

Thur
OHP

Fri
Squat
+Assistance

Sat
Bench
Row
Personally, I don't see the benefit of breaking the routine up and spreading over 5 days as opposed to 3, like it's supposed to be.
What exactly are you trying to achieve by spreading the workouts over the week like this?
Other than possibly hindering recovery and decreasing the overall effectiveness of the routine, I don't think you will achieve anything by doing this.
Stick to the 3 day format. It works.
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What exactly are you trying to achieve by spreading the workouts over the week like this?
I am getting bored and loosing motivation during workouts, and on the off days I find myself wanting to lift.

I also have a physically demanding job ( think picks, shovels, digging bar all day. ) whining off.
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I say you'd better go for the first one.
It's simple, and effective.
still, try to see if your body can bear such an effort.

For instance, one time I was using some Sheiko routine, I used to feel some pain in my spine. Went to a doctor, he told me that it's just overtraining. So test it, and see if it works positively...
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I'd agree that moving from a 3 day to a 4 day would be better.

You may feel overwhelmed, and overtraining problems may kick in.

But try 6 days - and if you run out of time or motivation, go to a 4 dayer
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