Muscle and Brawn Forums
 

Go Back   Muscle and Brawn Forums > Training > Muscle Building and Bodybuilding
Mark Forums Read
Register Articles Members List Search Today's Posts

Notices

Muscle Building and Bodybuilding Topics related to muscle building, bodybuilding, including training and fullbody workouts. If you are looking for great advice on gaining muscle this forum is for you.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 08-19-2011, 07:55 AM   #1
Carl1174
Senior Member
Max Brawn
Points: 14,417, Level: 77 Points: 14,417, Level: 77 Points: 14,417, Level: 77
Activity: 43% Activity: 43% Activity: 43%
 
Carl1174's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: South Wales - UK
Posts: 4,786
Training Exp: 3-4 years
Training Type: Fullbody
Reputation: 37394
Carl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machine
Default Box Squat Tips

I will be doing Box Squats (well to a bench) and havent really done them before so i wanted some good tips for when i do them.

ie: How far back to have the bench, how heavy to start at (in relation to a normal squat), how long to pause onthe box (as I have heard everything to touch and go and basically sitting down for a second or two then coming back up).

I want to get form on all my lifts really nailed down, as (I think) ill be doing a strength based program, or powerbuilding at least, when i come back off vacation and Im goning to really push weight progression.

Any help from you guys would be great

Carl.
Carl1174 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 08-19-2011, 07:59 AM   #2
Abaddon
Strongman & Trainer
Max Brawn
Points: 8,358, Level: 61 Points: 8,358, Level: 61 Points: 8,358, Level: 61
Activity: 99% Activity: 99% Activity: 99%
 
Abaddon's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: The Iron Pit
Posts: 3,959
Training Exp: 5 years total
Training Type: Powerbuilding
Fav Exercise: Log Clean Press
Fav Supp: Meat & Milk
Reputation: 650
Abaddon has made some quality postsAbaddon has made some quality postsAbaddon has made some quality postsAbaddon has made some quality postsAbaddon has made some quality postsAbaddon has made some quality posts
Default

I'm no expert, having only done them twice now, but I reckon you shouldn't have to reduce the weight you'd normally load up - at least after a warmup set or two - and might even be able to squat a little bit more in your first session.

The time you spend seated is dependent on how long you want to hold that tension in your core before standing up again; the longer you leave it, the weaker you'll feel when you then try and stand, and there will be even more propensity to lean forward as you rise.
__________________

W.A. AMATEUR STRONGMAN

MY LOG

PERSONAL RECORDS
Axle clean-press: 100 kgs (220 lbs)
Bench press: 135 kgs (298 lbs) - 1st PL meet 16th October 2011
Deadlift w/Barbell: 180 kgs (397 lbs)
Deadlift w/Hexbar: 225 kgs (496 lbs)
Farmers walk: 240 kgs (530 lbs), 50 feet
Front squat: 100 kgs (220 lbs)
Log clean-press: 100 kgs (220 lbs)
Strict OHP: 85 kgs (187 lbs) 3 reps
Tyre flip: 260 kgs (573 lbs), 100 feet
Abaddon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2011, 08:11 AM   #3
BendtheBar
Bearded Beast of Duloc
Max Brawn
Points: 1,554,481, Level: 100 Points: 1,554,481, Level: 100 Points: 1,554,481, Level: 100
Activity: 49% Activity: 49% Activity: 49%
 
BendtheBar's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 79,783
Training Exp: 20+ years
Training Type: Powerbuilding
Fav Exercise: Deadlift
Fav Supp: Butter
Reputation: 2583792
BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl1174 View Post

ie: How far back to have the bench, how heavy to start at (in relation to a normal squat), how long to pause onthe box (as I have heard everything to touch and go and basically sitting down for a second or two then coming back up).

I want to get form on all my lifts really nailed down, as (I think) ill be doing a strength based program, or powerbuilding at least, when i come back off vacation and Im goning to really push weight progression.

Any help from you guys would be great

Carl.
I like to move my feet just right in front of the bench/box. Some guys move the bench all the way in but it will force a wider stance and awkward squat unless the bench is low.

Squat normally until your butt feels the box. Then sit without rounding your back, but only long enough to feel like you've placed your weight on the box.

I would start with 40% of your 1RM to get a feel for the lift and add weight each set as you feel comfortable. Initially 80% of my 1RM was tough. Now 90% is easy.
__________________
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Destroy That Which Destroys You

"Let bravery be thy choice, but not bravado."


BendtheBar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2011, 08:15 AM   #4
Carl1174
Senior Member
Max Brawn
Points: 14,417, Level: 77 Points: 14,417, Level: 77 Points: 14,417, Level: 77
Activity: 43% Activity: 43% Activity: 43%
 
Carl1174's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: South Wales - UK
Posts: 4,786
Training Exp: 3-4 years
Training Type: Fullbody
Reputation: 37394
Carl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machine
Default

Thanks guys, this is the exact kind of stuff i was looking for.

Carl.
Carl1174 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2011, 08:19 AM   #5
Aurik
SFHW = Win
Max Brawn
Points: 5,197, Level: 46 Points: 5,197, Level: 46 Points: 5,197, Level: 46
Activity: 4% Activity: 4% Activity: 4%
 
Aurik's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Near Dallas, TX
Posts: 1,573
Training Exp: 1-2
Training Type: General Fitness
Fav Exercise: Kettlebells, for now
Fav Supp: XTend
Reputation: 19362
Aurik is a dedicated contributorAurik is a dedicated contributorAurik is a dedicated contributorAurik is a dedicated contributorAurik is a dedicated contributorAurik is a dedicated contributorAurik is a dedicated contributorAurik is a dedicated contributorAurik is a dedicated contributorAurik is a dedicated contributorAurik is a dedicated contributor
Default

Actually my current squat 1RM was done to a bench with a 2 second pause. The 2 second pause causes your stretch reflex to dissipate, making it harder to get out of the hole.

As others have said, when I box squat, I usually do my last few warmup sets to the box to make sure it's at the right distance and get the feel of it. It's not all that much different from squatting free, but it definitely forces you to focus more on sitting BACK when you squat.
__________________
"Generally people can't squat because they're lacking in the 'lower ab' area. As in they need to grow a set." - LtL
"No one ever got big or strong by lifting lightweights" - Carl1174
Follow my log here: Aurik's Back to Basics log
Valentin Konstantin Platz
Aurik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2011, 09:04 AM   #6
5kgLifter
Kettlebells' Angel !!!!
Max Brawn
Points: 23,645, Level: 94 Points: 23,645, Level: 94 Points: 23,645, Level: 94
Activity: 11% Activity: 11% Activity: 11%
 
5kgLifter's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 13,927
Training Type: Other
Reputation: 646483
5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BendtheBar View Post
I like to move my feet just right in front of the bench/box. Some guys move the bench all the way in but it will force a wider stance and awkward squat unless the bench is low.

Squat normally until your butt feels the box. Then sit without rounding your back, but only long enough to feel like you've placed your weight on the box.

I would start with 40% of your 1RM to get a feel for the lift and add weight each set as you feel comfortable. Initially 80% of my 1RM was tough. Now 90% is easy.
Some make use of the box with one of the corners facing forwards which means it won't interfere with a narrower squat stance.
__________________
36.5 kg /80.3 lb Middle-Finger DL (right hand)...
5kgLifter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2011, 09:26 AM   #7
Off Road
Senior Member
Max Brawn
Points: 17,091, Level: 83 Points: 17,091, Level: 83 Points: 17,091, Level: 83
Activity: 1% Activity: 1% Activity: 1%
 
Off Road's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 7,606
Reputation: 786994
Off Road is one with Crom!Off Road is one with Crom!Off Road is one with Crom!Off Road is one with Crom!Off Road is one with Crom!Off Road is one with Crom!Off Road is one with Crom!Off Road is one with Crom!Off Road is one with Crom!Off Road is one with Crom!Off Road is one with Crom!
Default

Start with a box height that allows you to maintain your form, then work into lower boxes as you progress. Also, Stick your ass out
Off Road is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2011, 11:31 AM   #8
BendtheBar
Bearded Beast of Duloc
Max Brawn
Points: 1,554,481, Level: 100 Points: 1,554,481, Level: 100 Points: 1,554,481, Level: 100
Activity: 49% Activity: 49% Activity: 49%
 
BendtheBar's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 79,783
Training Exp: 20+ years
Training Type: Powerbuilding
Fav Exercise: Deadlift
Fav Supp: Butter
Reputation: 2583792
BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 5kgLifter View Post
Some make use of the box with one of the corners facing forwards which means it won't interfere with a narrower squat stance.
I use a box.

__________________
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Destroy That Which Destroys You

"Let bravery be thy choice, but not bravado."


BendtheBar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2011, 07:34 AM   #9
Carl1174
Senior Member
Max Brawn
Points: 14,417, Level: 77 Points: 14,417, Level: 77 Points: 14,417, Level: 77
Activity: 43% Activity: 43% Activity: 43%
 
Carl1174's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: South Wales - UK
Posts: 4,786
Training Exp: 3-4 years
Training Type: Fullbody
Reputation: 37394
Carl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machineCarl1174 is a lifting machine
Default

Did these to a banch this morning for the first time and they were too easy. I think cos I am such a short a$$ the bench means I get to parallel just, maybee even a tad higher so I worked up to 135kg x 8 and it wasnt a struggle at all (normal squats are 150kg x 3 BP)... I now dont know what to do, the aerobic steps are only about 12 inches off the floor which i could use but thats completely ATG for me, or I could stand on some plates and use the bench, putting the bench just below parallel, but then Im stepping on and off plates with a lot of weight on my back ... any other thoughts anyone ??

Carl.
Carl1174 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2011, 07:39 AM   #10
LtL
SHFW
Max Brawn
Points: 36,892, Level: 100 Points: 36,892, Level: 100 Points: 36,892, Level: 100
Activity: 17% Activity: 17% Activity: 17%
 
LtL's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Reading, Berkshire, UK
Posts: 12,012
Training Exp: 5 years
Training Type: Powerlifting
Fav Exercise: Deadlifts
Fav Supp: Endurance BCAA
Reputation: 455740
LtL is one with Crom!LtL is one with Crom!LtL is one with Crom!LtL is one with Crom!LtL is one with Crom!LtL is one with Crom!LtL is one with Crom!LtL is one with Crom!LtL is one with Crom!LtL is one with Crom!LtL is one with Crom!
Default

Use aerobic steps but build them up a bit with more risers. That's what I did at my old gym.

LtL
__________________
Proudly sponsored by Muscle and Brawn and Lifestyle Focus.
Ask me about Ark products.
www.liftingtolive.com
LtL is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
box, squat, tips


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Coaching Tips for Full-Depth Squat big_swede Exercise Form 5 02-15-2012 04:58 PM
Squat Form Tips Fazc Articles 7 02-12-2012 04:54 PM
5 Tips for the raw squat BendtheBar Articles 9 10-29-2011 05:23 PM
Jim Squat Tips BendtheBar Video Compilations 0 05-30-2011 05:44 PM
Marc Barley Squat Tips BendtheBar Video Compilations 0 05-30-2011 05:42 PM

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:26 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.