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Old 06-23-2011, 12:54 PM   #21
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I fall into this group some what. I do not have a great pull...it is my weakest lift for the most part. My body is not built to pull. That doesnt mean i dont work on it. I just want to make sure I dont lose the meet because of my pull haha.
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Old 06-23-2011, 01:41 PM   #22
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I love squatting and all its variations more than any other lift I would say, I seem to progress on them quite well and I am built for squatting.

I absolutely suck at deadlifting, but I am doing everything I can to change that, am I built to deadlift, definitely not, but will i pull 4pps t5his year DEFINITELY

On the flip side I am built for bench, but its not particulay good in fact its exceptionally average.... but like Gl said, Bench is over-rated anyway, give me dips any day

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Only to those who aren't that good at it...
You don't know me yet. You're going to find that I have more than one opinion that runs contray to what the masses all goose step togther toward.

Bench is one of my stronger lifts when I work hard at it. I continue to move benching further and further down my list of important primary lifts to complete in any program I write or work.
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I will say this...of the top 3 "big lifts" bench scares me the most. I have always worked on form, form, form more on bench than any other lift, but I still have received the most strains and pains from benching.
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Old 06-23-2011, 02:04 PM   #25
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I just don't see the need beyond the visual aspects for bodybuilding, of having big pecs. Strong stable pecs yes, but to place as much emphasis on bench as is done today is to put the cart before the horse, IMO.

The emphasis should be mainly put into Deltoids first then Trapezious, and Pecs. IMO.
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I will say this...of the top 3 "big lifts" bench scares me the most. I have always worked on form, form, form more on bench than any other lift, but I still have received the most strains and pains from benching.
I train with a crew of three guys. We have training ages of between 1.5 and 5 years. All four of us have some sort of RC issue from benching. This ranges from scar tissue floating around from impingements to Dave who has just had his RC and shoulder "cleaned up" via a laser and keyhole surgery.

Bench should be treated with respect.

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I will say this...of the top 3 "big lifts" bench scares me the most. I have always worked on form, form, form more on bench than any other lift, but I still have received the most strains and pains from benching.
Really? I received my worst injury on bench, and yet I still feel its my safest lift. Ever since I learned Tate's method of form, and bastardized it myself, I've never felt more comfortable.

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I just don't see the need beyond the visual aspects for bodybuilding, of having big pecs. Strong stable pecs yes, but to place as much emphasis on bench as is done today is to put the cart before the horse, IMO.
Balance. I agree that everyone makes bench into the end all be all, and its not, but that doesn't mean you ignore or think lesser of the exercise.
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Took this from the Intermediate Strongman thread.

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The hardest thing for someone who wants to transition to strongman is how unimportant benching actually is. I have been running 5/3/1 with bench turned down to about 60%. I did this for two reasons, 1-to focus on OH strength, 2-because benching does very little in strongman. My press is damn near what my bench is right now. I really only bench to help balance out the power between my back and my front.
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Lol. The smilely face meant I was kidding.
Yes, I got that part. Still, I wanted to address your point.


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Balance. I agree that everyone makes bench into the end all be all, and its not, but that doesn't mean you ignore or think lesser of the exercise.
Actually I quit benching entirely awhile back, but was still able to maintain as much strength across my pecs as I had when benching. In fact I increased my overall bench strength while not benching. I did not bench for nearly 20 months.

I had later put benching back in my program, and pushed 280+ one day. I continued to get stronger on the move, and I would say I should have been able to push 300 or better had I actually tried for a new PR.

I train home alone so I never went for a 300, because it just wasn't important to me.

We don't know each other, so I can imagine that you would think I'm probably full of BS by claiming what I just did. However I think it is accurate.
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We don't know each other, so I can imagine that you would think I'm probably full of BS by claiming what I just did. However I think it is accurate.
You are but no one is complaining.

Since I really can't add anything to this conversation, I thought I would get one smart alec remark in.

I have never found the bench to be a good chest exercise, my gorilla arms may have something to do with that though.
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