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Old 05-27-2011, 02:48 PM   #11
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Check my log I seldom go over 5 and never over 10 normally just 1-3 reps if not a crap load of volume with progressive singles and rep sets. These guys are stupid because most real bodybuilders don't follow rep schemes at all, they do repetition method and whatever feels right.
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Check my log I seldom go over 5 and never over 10 normally just 1-3 reps if not a crap load of volume with progressive singles and rep sets. These guys are stupid because most real bodybuilders don't follow rep schemes at all, they do repetition method and whatever feels right.
Any one thing Arnold stopped the pump because he hit his target rep set ?
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Old 05-27-2011, 02:57 PM   #13
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Check my log I seldom go over 5 and never over 10 normally just 1-3 reps if not a crap load of volume with progressive singles and rep sets. These guys are stupid because most real bodybuilders don't follow rep schemes at all, they do repetition method and whatever feels right.
Well that's one thing we have talked about as well...looking at training volume per hour as opposed to just sets and reps.

Daniel Moore, the creator of Max-Stim, was using singles with limited rest. I personally have used cluster training with limited rest. DC Training also breaks the rep/set mold with rest-pause.

We can even travel back to Hepburn who trained with singles, doubles and triples.



And you, Tony, are the perfect example...you have an incredible amount of muscle mass.
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Old 05-27-2011, 02:59 PM   #14
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Any one thing Arnold stopped the pump because he hit his target rep set ?
No, because Arnold knew that lifting wasn't a formula.
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1) You are correct to a certain extent, Abaddon. I usually lift in the 1-5 rep range for the big, compound, barbell movements, and rarely go higher than that. However, I also do plenty of assistance work, usually with dumbbells. During those sets, it tends to be in the 5-10 range for reps. Based on that info regarding my training methodology, it's difficult to determine whether the low-rep sets induced significant hypertrophy.

2) I always disregard the bullshit which is espoused by people who claim to be an expert or come across as a know-it-all, especially if they're dogmatic, but don't have pics/videos of themselves.
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On a related note, according to Zatsiorski, in his book 'Science And Practice Of Strength Training', he explains that there are two types of muscular hypertrophy: sarcomere and myofibrillar. The former is manifested as a result of bodybuilding training, while the latter is created by doing weightlifting/powerlifting.
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2) I always disregard the bullshit which is espoused by people who claim to be an expert or come across as a know-it-all, especially if they're dogmatic, but don't have pics/videos of themselves.
Dogmatic is the key word in this discussion.

Personally I am tired of seeing young trainees fed dogmatic advice. Lifting isn't rocket science. If you eat enough and lift heavier weights, you will gain size and strength.

All this rep range nonsense is just that...no trainee in the history of lifting, that I know of, has stuck to a single carved in stone rep range on every set of every exercise over the course of their training history.

Rep range, or any other dogmatic belief, should never be elevated above the importance of persistence, food and resistance when talking to rank beginners.
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I concur, Steve.
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I agree sometimes beginners over analyze everything..it really isn't rocket science..just hard work and discipline
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