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Old 02-07-2011, 08:24 AM   #11
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...I get the feeling this silly video is being taken seriously.
I'll move it to the "not serious" pile ASAP.



Pinwheels were pretty popular here last year. We had a string where everyone was trying them. Not so much lately though.
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I'll move it to the "not serious" pile ASAP.
Pinwheels were pretty popular here last year. We had a string where everyone was trying them. Not so much lately though.
And what's your honest opinion on my form Steve? Not to mention, on pinwheels?
EDIT: to clarify, I've only started standing alternating DB curls recently, by comparison. I used to sit and do 1 arm at a time. If what I'm doing is less productive, I will return to the seated and/or isolated curling I was doing...
I want to get this right. I only started standing alternating because I felt my increase in stamina demanded it!
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And what's your honest opinion on my form Steve? Not to mention, on pinwheels?
EDIT: to clarify, I've only started standing alternating DB curls recently, by comparison. I used to sit and do 1 arm at a time. If what I'm doing is less productive, I will return to the seated and/or isolated curling I was doing...
I want to get this right. I only started alternating because I felt my increase in stamina demanded it!
Looked fine to me.

I am a big fan of alternating curls. That's really the only way I do dumbbells. I never cared for both arms at the same time.

I have performed seated and standing curls. Whatever feels good for you.
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Old 02-07-2011, 08:54 AM   #15
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LOL righto, now I KNOW you're BSing me buddy. My goatee is wisp thin like a 12 year olds nut fluff.
And I'm still waiting for someone to conclusively tell me what I'm doing is wrong... I posted this vid coz I was uncertain about the legitimacy of 'explosive' movements of this nature versus just throwing around BW to offset the weight being moved...
This was intended to help me better understand what constitutes a legitimate movement. I don't want to piss anyone off. But I don't want to be humoured either.


So everyone is accepting your curls as a functional strength exercise?
Fair enough, the core and back are working in conjunction with the bis.
Bottom line tho, there are much more effective ways to train for athletic strength. Recklessly curling dumbells IMO isnt the answer.
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So everyone is accepting your curls as a functional strength exercise?
Fair enough, the core and back are working in conjunction with the bis.
Bottom line tho, there are much more effective ways to train for athletic strength. Recklessly curling dumbells IMO isnt the answer.
This is something I want to hear more about ILL. Thanks for posting - can you give me some more info on your standpoint?
repped, btw.
I cannot say that I am training for 'athletic strength' per se: I am not sure what I AM training for, tbh... other than mass and power (functional strength) and generally making the most of my genetic gifts.
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This is something I want to hear more about ILL. Thanks for posting - can you give me some more info on your standpoint?
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I cannot say that I am training for 'athletic strength' per se: I am not sure what I AM training for, tbh... other than mass and power (functional strength) and generally making the most of my genetic gifts.

In regard to the 'curls' - If athletic/functional strength is your goal, time is
better spent doing the following movements:

Upperbody
cable flyes
external internal rotation(top and bottom)
cable lateral pulldowns
diagonal pulldowns
pull ups
along with the standard:
bench press
military press
push press
cleans

Lowerbody
side lunges
plie lunges
cable attached leg moves.
abduction/aduction rotation
front/back lunges
along with the standard:
d/l
clean
squat
squat variation

Abs/core
hanging leg lifts
wood chops
swiss ball curls

If the above is or becomes your goal, emphasis with weight the areas of your body that can put most muscle into action.

If bodybuilding is your goal, those 'curls' are only removing tension from the bis.
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If the above is or becomes your goal, emphasis with weight the areas of your body that can put most muscle into action.
If bodybuilding is your goal, those 'curls' are only removing tension from the bis.
Let's assume that I'm more interested in building than athletic strength;
What you are implying (or maybe I'm simply inferring) is that my curls are not sufficiently isolating the biceps?
I could perhaps utilise this loading (or slightly less, given my form in the vid) but in a seated position, to reduce the 'throwing' of the dumbbell?
Don't get me wrong ILL, I like the depth you went to with the list of exercises that assist with athletic strength. But, on inspection, I think I have most of them covered with my present 4 dayer.
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Let's assume that I'm more interested in building than athletic strength;
What you are implying (or maybe I'm simply inferring) is that my curls are not sufficiently isolating the biceps?
I could perhaps utilise this loading (or slightly less, given my form in the vid) but in a seated position, to reduce the 'throwing' of the dumbbell?
Don't get me wrong ILL, I like the depth you went to with the list of exercises that assist with athletic strength. But, on inspection, I think I have most of them covered with my present 4 dayer.

Seems as though were on the same page ab.
I was also shocked to read these very very experienced and knowledgeable fellows on this site approve of your vid. Id like to know if their approval was in regard to muscle building. And if the approval was for strength, id like to know what exercise these 'curls' will assist or improve.
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