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Old 12-20-2010, 10:15 AM   #1
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I just had a heated debate with a friend from high school who I ran into at the gym. He was trying to tell me that I need to change workouts every 6 to 8 weeks. I know guys that have never changed workouts and are three times as big as me.

Where did this belief come from that you need to constantly switch things up?
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I don't have time to get into this all the way right now, BUT!!

MUSCLE CONFUSION IS BS!!
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Old 12-20-2010, 10:42 AM   #3
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I just had a heated debate with a friend from high school who I ran into at the gym. He was trying to tell me that I need to change workouts every 6 to 8 weeks. I know guys that have never changed workouts and are three times as big as me.

Where did this belief come from that you need to constantly switch things up?
your body adapts to a workout. the organization of the exercises the sets/reps. all of it. youre body can become adjusted to it. people swap workouts when they notice the benefits of that workout slow down or stop. the change is meant to "shock" the body into more growth. this is the reason given as to changing ever 6-8weeks.
personally i change when i get bored.

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Does a muscle ever adapt to progressive weight?
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Muscle confusion is a myth. Stick with progression.
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Does a muscle ever adapt to progressive weight?
That is the right question, with a complicated answer.
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There is no confusion, only adaptation. Adaptation is what you seek, it means the work you are doing is having the effect you want. ADD WEIGHT when the muscle has adapted to the stress being applied. Progression of weight is what you work to achieve.

Don't change because you think you need to confuse your body. Change because you want to do something different due to lots of other factors, but not because of this mystical confusion idea.


As you perform a particular movement, your body gets better at performing that movement. It becomes more effecient. This is a good thing, IMO. Just keep adding weight.

There are other facters that will come into play as you work up to the point of pushing some serious weight. Thats a whole other thread, actually it is an article in the bodybuilding forum. Look for the Casey BUTT thread, and find the interviews that Steve Shaw did. Or look in the Classic challenge and you will find them linked in the first post.
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I don't know about you but my body only has one brain. My muscles never get confused, they either adapt or they progress. The only confusion that occurs in my gym is when I don't look at my log and can't remember how much weight I moved last time. Shoot for 1 lb more or 1 rep more every time and you will have not need for confusion.
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Where did this belief come from that you need to constantly switch things up?
It comes from people mistakenly thinking that DOMS indicates progress.
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personally i change when i get bored.
I change mine when my goals change.
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