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Old 01-05-2011, 11:47 AM   #161
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To quote Alwyn Cosgrove:

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And I'd say that maybe 90-95% of the population, 90-95% of the time, will respond best to either total body or an upper and lower split. Now, the numbers may not be exact, but if you read what I said as "the majority of people" you'll see what I mean.
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Old 01-05-2011, 11:47 AM   #162
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Just to add on to what Carl said.. I ran a full body routine for a bit last year and it was brutal!! If I didn't just start a new routine 2 weeks ago I'd definitely be in for this.
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Old 01-05-2011, 12:51 PM   #163
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Ok, a fullbody program can work, but isn't using one sort of like choosing to drive a 1955 car when you could be driving a new car? If they are so good then why has the modern split system become the way everybody trains?
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Ok, a fullbody program can work, but isn't using one sort of like choosing to drive a 1955 car when you could be driving a new car? If they are so good then why has the modern split system become the way everybody trains?
The modern split system works but so does the fullbody program. Different strokes for different folks. The whole car analogy falls short because we aren't cars and our basic genitics haven't changed like automobiles. If something worked in the 50's why would it fail to get results today?
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Ok, a fullbody program can work, but isn't using one sort of like choosing to drive a 1955 car when you could be driving a new car? If they are so good then why has the modern split system become the way everybody trains?
I would equate it as follows:

Modern bodybuilding splits are based on rocket fuel - rocket fuel being steroids. If you have rocket fuel, then ignore fullbody workouts.

If you don't have rocket fuel then start with a fullbody and evolve your training based on needs, and not just because Jay Cutler does X.

Sure, you might need a split in the future. Sure, you might thrive on a split in the future. But you don't jump into a 5 day split full of isolation work and 16-20 sets per bodypart without a reason.

Start slow. Use core compounds lifts. Learn your body. Evolve. Fullbody, split whatever...just return training to common sense.
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Here's a little information about the modern split system.

It isn't modern at all. Split training has been around for over 60yrs.

There is a long story about how split style training rose to the top, and it has very little to do with it being a better way to train for most people.

To properly get into this we need to look at Joe Weider and all of his training principles. Here is an important point to remember about Joe Weider. He is a buisnessman who is selling a product. His primary goal is to seperate you from your money with his products. One of his earliest products was in publishing. He needed to sell magazines to make money.

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presently, i'm doing a split routine. I've done upper-lower body splits for around 5 years, and then powerlifting for a year, all with getting great results. I started to split routine just to switch things around a bit and have been getting great results, i always know i can go back to fullbody or upper/lower body split if things stall on me with split routines and continue to make progress..thats just my 2 cents
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I've almost always trained with a split. I just want guys to know this so they have a reference point. But I also never knew that fullbody workouts existed.

Splits are viable. But with that said, most magazine style splits are not the most efficient way to train for a natural.

But the older I get, the more my philosophy is transitioning to fullbody workouts as a starting point. Once a trainee is making gains and rocking progress, I don't particularly care how they train. They know their body better than I, and are hopefully evolving their training around their individual needs.
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@ lou and @ butter, guys are you serious, i have ran the splits and guess what i could use bigger weights/never got tired/never sore-NOW IM RUNNING FULLBODY, and it whoops my arse/ im always tired and sore/ and with only a few workouts in im noticing changes and pr's already try the fullbody and see what you guys think, and most of us are not running the fullbody for 3 months i know for fact me and btb are running it a year with slight tweaks along the way
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