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Old 07-26-2010, 05:35 PM   #21
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I think the bigger issue as mentioned in the article is that these principles aren't a favorable way for a beginner to train.

The mind muscle connection with 95 pounds on bench isn't going to get anyone yoked. I think that's really the point being made.

And regarding muscle confusion...this approach has little usefulness in the natural realm.
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Old 07-26-2010, 05:39 PM   #22
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I think the bigger issue as mentioned in the article is that these principles aren't a favorable way for a beginner to train.

The mind muscle connection with 95 pounds on bench isn't going to get anyone yoked. I think that's really the point being made.

And regarding muscle confusion...this approach has little usefulness in the natural realm.
I would agree. Beginners need to recruit more and more motor units to actually train otherwise untouched muscle fibers. The only way to recruit more motor units is more weight.
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Old 07-26-2010, 05:43 PM   #23
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Size, Strenght and power are different for everyone..What makes you think your strong, someone else is looking at what your lifting and saying " Damn, that guy is lifting weak ****"
Yes, I agree. But the 5'4" lifter benching 280 still had to work his ass off in the gym to put up those numbers, and he didn't get there with the mind muscle connection.
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Well its obvious that there are two different philosophies on this subject matter...

I prefer a hybrid of both, with a stronger emphases on Heavy / low reps.

Maybe both sides can appreciate this....lol

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I'm not trying to troll. I am just saying that most bodybuilders don't need low rep sets.
Everything works but not forever!
On the other hand Low rep sets are responsible of building a lot of muscle in many athletes and not only bodybuilders...Olympic weightlifting's quads are famous and they do a lot of low rep set training....(Pic from Pirros Dymas)
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I come from the other side of the fence. Barbells and dumbbells work forever. Not trying to start an argument. I just don't believe in muscle confusion. I know what GAS implies, but I think this concept is used waaaay out of context. Too many young ****ers who know about GAS think they have to stop squatting after 6 weeks because their bodies have adapted.

Say you are doing something like Hepburn did and using 8x2. After a month the body adapt to your training style, meaning that its now adapted to you lifting heavy for many sets. Does this mean that strength and muscle gains stop? Hell no. But that's the way GAS is interpreted. Adaptation is automatically used to imply zero gains and I think this is wrong.

I believe that progression and heavy weight is all the anyone needs until they become advanced lifters. When you're advanced you know your body and by then you aren't making routines based on theory or **** like that. You're doing what works for your body.

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I come from the other side of the fence. Barbells and dumbbells work forever. Not trying to start an argument. I just don't believe in muscle confusion. I know what GAS implies, but I think this concept is used waaaay out of context. Too many young ****ers who know about GAS think they have to stop squatting after 6 weeks because their bodies have adapted.

Say you are doing something like Hepburn did and using 8x2. After a month the body adapt to your training style, meaning that its now adapted to you lifting heavy for many sets. Does this mean that strength and muscle gains stop? Hell no. But that's the way GAS is interpreted. Adaptation is automatically used to imply zero gains and I think this is wrong.

I believe that progression and heavy weight is all the anyone needs until they become advanced lifters. When you're advanced you know your body and by then you aren't making routines based on theory or **** like that. You're doing what works for your body.

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