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Old 04-30-2010, 08:14 AM   #1
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Are there benefits to 6 second negatives, drop sets, rest pause sets and all the other types of high intersity work? I've heard it said these things were useless but I see people using them all the time. I just want to know if at some point you should start using these things to save wear and tear on your body.

Do any of you guys use these things?
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Old 04-30-2010, 08:58 AM   #2
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Are there benefits to 6 second negatives, drop sets, rest pause sets and all the other types of high intersity work? I've heard it said these things were useless but I see people using them all the time. I just want to know if at some point you should start using these things to save wear and tear on your body.

Do any of you guys use these things?
Oh definitely. I don't completely surround my training with them, but I do make sure to include them from time to time. It's very useful when you're trying to bring up a lagging bodypart, or want to shock your body somehow.

It's fine to include a little in all your workouts, I think. I just wouldn't have all my training be made up of negatives, supersets, etc.

What are your training goals? Have you hit a plateau, or just want to do something different?
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Everything works for somebody. If something is useless, it means it doesn't fit into your goals. I would say people waste their time doing more than 1-3 sets per exercise of these techniques but still believe they have their purposes.

I would say drop sets and rest pauses are ways to work on muscular endurance.
Drops sets more so with lactic acid tolerance and rep endurance.

Rest pauses with strength endurance,e.g. you are strong enough to deadlift 500lbs once, but how many times can your do singles with it, more effective for speed work around 50/55/60% of ones max maybe up to 70% but any higher too often is too strenuous on the body.

Negatives are almost like doing isometric work and help with controlling weights such as eccentric movements, Like using chains or bands on the squat to drop faster but the real example would be weight releases, since chains/bands sole purpose is not for the negative descent as weight releases, where your body is tricked into thinking it is lifting more weight, so for example it braces the CNS for a 365lbs bench on the descent but the weight releases off 50lbs and now you only have to lift 315lbs.
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From a pure bodybuilding standpoint, I don't like the use of too many tricks until a fair amount of muscle has been developed. I can see the benefit of using high intensity work to slightly lower the poundages when a lifter is close to natural limits and doesn't need to kill themselves anymore with heavy weight. But I don't like their exclusive use.
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I'm pretty anti past-failure style sets myself. Once you train past momentary failure the gains are pretty much nothing and you are more likely to set yourself up for injury.

Only real reason i see to use methods like that is for a mental change up to a stagnant routine.
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