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sneezingstardust 04-21-2010 10:18 AM

Back with delts?
 
What are your thoughts on training these two together the same day? Is there any benefit, in your opinion?

I find that my rear delts get worked a lot with my back, but when I try to do both on the same day, it's usually quite hard, especially after a hard back workout.

Right now I'm doing:

Tuesday - chest/triceps
Wednesday - back/delts

Do you think it would be better doing something like:

Tues- chest/triceps/front and medial delts
Wed -back/rear delts

??

BendtheBar 04-21-2010 10:22 AM

I think back and shoulders are a good mix. Rear laterals get hammered with quality rowing work. Traps get hit with heavy pressing work.

I think the key is not to try and do too many moves in one workout. Maybe rotate in exercises every other week if you think you're missing any key exercises.

I've seen some shoulder and back workouts that are overkill on sets. I see them something like: deadlift, rows, pullups, presses and maybe one other shoulder movement.

I don't like the idea of doing shoulders the day after heavy chest and triceps. I would like to see the triceps get a couple days of rest first. But I know you also have to space deadlifts apart from squats.

sneezingstardust 04-21-2010 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BendtheBar (Post 49962)
I think back and shoulders are a good mix. Rear laterals get hammered with quality rowing work. Traps get hit with heavy pressing work.

I think the key is not to try and do too many moves in one workout. Maybe rotate in exercises every other week if you think you're missing any key exercises.

I've seen some shoulder and back workouts that are overkill on sets. I see them something like: deadlift, rows, pullups, presses and maybe one other shoulder movement.

I don't like the idea of doing shoulders the day after heavy chest and triceps. I would like to see the triceps get a couple days of rest first. But I know you also have to space deadlifts apart from squats.

Makes sense. I guess I will just cut down a little on volume/exercises. Back is one of my favorites to train so it's hard convincing myself to cut down sometimes, hehe.

BendtheBar 04-21-2010 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sneezingstardust (Post 49977)
Makes sense. I guess I will just cut down a little on volume/exercises. Back is one of my favorites to train so it's hard convincing myself to cut down sometimes, hehe.

You're young so you could probably stay in the gym for 75 to 90 minutes without issue. Hw long are your workouts right now?

sneezingstardust 04-21-2010 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BendtheBar (Post 49983)
You're young so you could probably stay in the gym for 75 to 90 minutes without issue. Hw long are your workouts right now?

Anywhere from 60-75 minutes, usually. If I have cardio to do right afterward, I'll do 60ish mins of weights and then the cardio.


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