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Old 04-09-2010, 07:18 AM   #1
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Lee Haney's Book, I just got it from the Library. Should impart some good knowlege unto me
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Since your into Golden Age stuff, check out Casey Butts articles. Have you read Brawn, by Stuart McRobert?

Jamie lewis, AKA, Chaos&Pain, has his viewpoint on McRoberts, and his opinion is worth reading as well.

My own personal viewpoint is that McRoberts, and Lewis are pretty far apart on the pendulum arc, while Butts takes a more central better grounded share of the issue.

Give us a good book review when your finished.
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I didn't even know Haney had a book. Trevor, was it you that wanted Neanderthin?

I have a bad memory at my old age....
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Since your into Golden Age stuff, check out Casey Butts articles. Have you read Brawn, by Stuart McRobert?

Jamie lewis, AKA, Chaos&Pain, has his viewpoint on McRoberts, and his opinion is worth reading as well.

My own personal viewpoint is that McRoberts, and Lewis are pretty far apart on the pendulum arc, while Butts takes a more central better grounded share of the issue.

Give us a good book review when your finished.
Yeah, I just searched bodybuilding as a subject and that was it for that branch. But if I wanted to I could look up some of that stuff and have it held for me at the branch I go to. I was irritated/impatient with them yesterday because they checked out a book I had on hold to someone (Ian Fleming's Goldfinger) I even thought afterward that I should have searched for Chuck Sipes, either as author or subject so maybe I'll do that later today. Jamie's main thing against Ripptoe, McRoberts, et al is the fear of heavy weight, volume, and overtraining that they try to instill and their nutritional advice. He's sais a couple of times on his site that their training methods aren't bad, it's more their fearful philosophy. To quote someone here (I think it was Doc), Fear=doubt=danger in the gym.

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So, I finished this. Not worth a full review, but here are my thoughts.

This probably is a pretty good book for complete noobs, but not terribly useful for intermediate to advanced builders.

First off, the nutrition section is horrible, especially from the perspective of a follower of the paleo lifestyle. Phrases like "nutrition is 80% of bodybuilding," I have to agree with Grim that nutrition, training, and rest are equal, which means they all get about 33%; "a good diet is 60-70% carbs" and he says grains and potatoes are the way to get them... BS, unless you have 4 stomachs and can chew cud you have no business eating grains (that's clearly only my opinion, based on my subscription to eating like a caveman); "it was once believed that 2 grams of protein per lb. of bodyweight was necessary, we now know that number can be cut in half," OK, maybe it's not “necessary,” but will it keep me from gaining muscle??? NO; and to cap off my rant on Mr. Haney's nutritional advice… he advises in one sentence increasing caloric intake by 600-700 a day, then advises endomorphs (regardless of bodyweight) to keep their calories at about 1700 a day - which is it??? So, I clearly will not be following any of his nutrition suggestions.

The Motivation section is great. He gets a bit religious and preachy but his bottom line is awesome: Get to the gym no matter what it takes!!!

The exercise section is first-class as well. He explains several workout schedules including 6 a week, 4 on/3 off, 2 on/1 off, etc… and how to apply several methods to those scheduled including body part splits, full body, and push-pull. Then he breaks down the exercises he uses by body part in great detail with incredible pictures.

Finally, the show prep section is disappointing after the detail of the exercise section. Haney gives advice about posing trunks, tanning, and even makeup. But he never explains poses, even though he advises you on picking music and how many poses you should have (12-13 for a novice show, in case anyone was wondering).

So, overall it was a bit disappointing to me.

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Phrases like "nutrition is 80% of bodybuilding," I forget who said it but I have to agree that nutrition, training, and rest are equal, which means they all get about 33%
that sounds like my article bones to pick.


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Yeah, it was yours... for some reason I through it was Gamma but then I couldn't find it in any of his stuff.
This clearly was not a "complete guide to bodybuilding success," he could have at least explained the 12-13 poses for novices and that alone would have vastly improved it.
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First off, the nutrition section is horrible, especially from the perspective of a follower of the paleo lifestyle. Phrases like "nutrition is 80% of bodybuilding,"
I wonder if this was written while under contract with Weider. What's its publication date.
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I used to have those Lee Haney training videos when I was in high school. They were worthless to me then. I also remember reading about Haney doing DB Rows with about 70 pound dumbells too. The guy could probably build muscle just by thinking about weights (how's that for mind-muscle connection).

As for the diet advice, he probably just put down what he liked to eat. I imagine he's that guy we all know or see in the gym who walks in eating a snicker's bar and drinking a pepsi, then lays down on the bench and uses two sets to reach 365.

Basica-lee, Lee could have eaten like a slob and probably would have been complete-lee awesome.
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